Author Topic: Thoosje Quick XP Optimizer (Read 50,161 times)

cmpm · « **on:** January 29, 2008, 06:21 PM »

http://www.thoosje.com/Tools.html

Has anyone else tried this little program?
I installed and ran it on my test machine and it made a good difference.
I couldn't find out what it does exactly.
But I'm out of time today.
Will check it out some more after work or tomorrow.

This explains it a little.

http://www.thoosje.com/Windows-XP-Optimizer-Help.html

And I found it through this site.

http://www.freecommander.com/

tomos · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:19 PM »

Quote from: cmpm on January 29, 2008, 06:21 PM

This explains it a little.

http://www.thoosje.com/Windows-XP-Optimizer-Help.html

none of the "more info" links on that page work $:-\$

Curt · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2008, 11:52 PM »

Quote from: tomos on January 29, 2008, 08:19 PM

none of the "more info" links on that page work

- you already were at the "more info" page.

Edit: But I need to know if one can choose which features to activate, or if they all are implemented at once?? I really don't want my XP to look like some Win 95 just in order to make it faster...

lanux128 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2008, 12:58 AM »

GUI looks spiffy but i'd rather have more control on what is being optimised..

cmpm · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2008, 02:46 AM »

Yeah, I'd like to know what it's doing to my computer right now....lol...

When I get back home I'll check it out some more.
See if I can find any changes with my limited abilities.
I'll check process' and services and run some scans.

I have two machines that are about the same.
So I can compare pretty easily.
They both have similar things on them.

There is a forum about the program but I didn't have time to read any of it yet.

BigJim · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2008, 04:01 AM »

I, for one, will be anxious for your report and findings on this.

BTW: He has some other interesting looking stuff and a lot of nice wallpaper/screen save images on his site, too.

Curt · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2008, 07:59 AM »

I really should have looked more carefully - the answer was of course given at the homepage:

- and with option to restore.

lanux128 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2008, 09:57 AM »

another optimizer that i found: XP-Config. the website is in German but the author uses Google to auto-translate into english. haven't tried it, though but do check out the website, there's some good-looking tools.

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f0dder · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2008, 11:27 AM »

Hrm, I'm not very fond of "black magic" apps that don't explain what they're doing. Of course you can always check with sysinternals' regmon, but still...

lanux128 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2008, 01:11 PM »

f0dder, you're echoing my thoughts a few posts above..

cmpm · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2008, 02:23 PM »

Well, I've looked at 'process monitor' and don't really know what I'm seeing except when there's an icon, like my AV icon.

But anyways-

No changes in services and processes that I can see using sysinternals process explorer.

Full/Complete scans of-
AVG
A-Squared
Super Anti Spyware

Nothing turned up.

When I ran the optimizer, it took about 1 second and then you had to reboot. I'm going to browse the forums here in a bit, as I get some more coffee going here.

Going to run Ccleaner and Gladys Utilities in a bit too.

O and I have old Scotty on Patrol too.
No Barks....yet.

I don't know how to go much deeper to find things, hence the reason for this thread asking if anyone else has used this program.

-edit- I mean 'Glary Utilities' , for some reason Gladys is stuck in my brain for that set of programs...brain glitch....

Curt · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2008, 03:27 PM »

Toohsje has left the building

- because it crashed both itself, my startup manager, and XP. Bye bye!

BigJim · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2008, 04:11 PM »

Oh dear!

cmpm · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2008, 04:23 PM »

If you don't have some kind of way to test unknown software safely, then I wouldn't.
I have one computer I use for that purpose.

Lashiec · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2008, 08:01 PM »

Really, stay away of these auto optimizers. They never say what they change to achieve these magic results, and always fail. Plus, they could be using one of those optimizing myths that do exactly the opposite.

If they don't say what they do, or lack a open backup system (based on .reg files, even if they're ZIP compressed), give them a thumbs down.

Curt · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2008, 11:01 PM »

Quote from: Lashiec on January 30, 2008, 08:01 PM

Really, stay away of these auto optimizers.

Maybe it would be appropriate to distinct between this, these and some.

Quote from: cmpm on January 29, 2008, 06:21 PM

I installed and ran it on my test machine and it made a good difference.

BTW:

Quote from: Curt on January 30, 2008, 07:59 AM

- and with option to restore.

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Quote from: cmpm on January 29, 2008, 06:21 PM

Will check it out some more after work or tomorrow.

Quote from: BigJim on January 30, 2008, 04:01 AM

I, for one, will be anxious for your report and findings on this.

- me too, cmpm.
How big a difference do you think it made? How many and which options did you activate?

cmpm · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2008, 01:03 AM »

Curt,

I think everything it can do, it did.
I don't think it tweaked much considering the time it took-1 second.

Everything loads faster on reboot, once you are past the logon screen.
In fact it was so fast that Firefox loaded before the rest of the icons in my tray could load.
I have 12 programs loading at startup.

The thing I saw was that I did not get the icons of all the programs that are supposed to be running on startup, but they are running when I checked task manager.
All I had to do was log off and log back on to get all the icons in the tray.
But that has been a problem off and on with XP anyway.

And fodder, I don't think you know everything that runs in XP do you?
What every .dll is for, every file does?

I'm not trying to sell this damn program.
It's free anyway.
I wanted to know if anyone else has used it.

And I didn't check the obvious things like page file settings and performance settings yet.
I forgot to check those.
It will probably be this weekend or the next before I can see more. And I want to go through their forums and see what is being said.

I don't have a lot of time to play, that's why I limited my question to 'has anyone used or heard of it' or whatever I said up there.

ok?!

Lashiec · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2008, 01:25 AM »

Quote from: Curt on January 30, 2008, 11:01 PM

Maybe it would be appropriate to distinct between this, these and some.

These, as referring the program that titles the thread. Why? It gives you a set of options and says "Click here to optimize x", "Click here to optimize y", then press "Apply", and your computer will go faster. Whoo, and the program did, what? Optimize hard disk -> Disable registering last access (I guess), that it's a good thing for performance, but if you use temp files cleaners, we have a problem. Optimize processor -> Set the size of the L2 cache in the registry (a classic), that does absolutely nothing. Oh, and it prevents from getting miselanious cookies, great.

Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh, but I know these programs since a long time, at the turn of the millennium, tweaking Windows was the coolest thing ever, and the net was blooming with these apps, that did absolutely nothing, or totally obscured what they did, something that pissed me off. Of course, there are apps that gives you access to system tweaking, but without using empty tricks and telling you what are they going to do, and they're highly useful for various things, not only for making Windows run "faster". A good example? TweakUI or the same XPConfig that lanux mentions.

I understand cmpm concerns and we're not criticising you, but only giving some warning about possible problems that such software could inflict on Windows. I mean, in Curt's case, it brought the whole system down

lanux128 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2008, 03:23 AM »

i remember an old tweaker program called X-Setup that showed you what are the changes it is going to make to your system and also had a "recorder" function to revert the settings. i think the program has now changed from freeware to shareware.

you can check out this web-site for useful tweaks (but a bit dated): http://www.mdgx.com/wxp.htm.

cmpm · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2008, 04:50 AM »

I just realized I used version 1.0.

And there is a 2.0.

Curt, you must have used 2.0.
I don't know the diff but I will try 2.0 sometime.
In 1.0 there is only one option, one optimize button.
2.0 has more options.

Here's a google search for it.
Some had problems, others didn't.
I think if you already have some optimizer then they would conflict possibly.
The top one is 2.0, then there are some reviews.
And of course we are in there too

.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Thoosje+Quick+XP+Optimizer&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS255US257

Curt · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2008, 07:37 AM »

- yes, I was trying version 2.0, and I only clicked the two options, Optimize Harddisk and Processor ("By removing limits and disable useless checks to make full use of your harddisk and your processor") and Optimize Applications ("By removing limits and disable useless checks to make full use of your harddisk and your applications").

lanux128 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2008, 08:33 AM »

also check out today's app at GAOTD: Background optimizer.

Quote from: "website"

automatically optimizes computer while it’s idle.

Once it’s installed the program optimize your computer in the background without interfering with your normal work on your PC – it does its Background Optimizer whenever you take a break. One of the most valuable tools for your computer!

With this application you divide these 2 hours of computer tuning into free 5 minute periods and don’t even think about it!

f0dder · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2008, 11:06 AM »

Quote from: cmpm on January 31, 2008, 01:03 AM

And fodder, I don't think you know everything that runs in XP do you?
What every .dll is for, every file does?

I stopped that little exercise when moving to win2000, as it's pretty futile and pointless. It's not very interesting, either, what's important is knowing what used and running modules are used for.

That said, I do have the debugging and disassembly skills to figure out what just about any file is used for, if I need to.

What it all boils down to is that I don't like snake oil. I don't like software authors that try to present their thing as magic. Especially not if the author is making money from it (yes, this particular app is freeware, but the author has banners on his site).

Lashiec: "disable last access" is a nice thing indeed, and most people don't really last-access timestamp anyway. Remember that turning of last-access timestamp doesn't turn off last-modify timestamp, only "I have to update filesystem metadata because the user looked at this file."

PhilB66 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2008, 11:38 AM »

Quote from: lanux128 on January 31, 2008, 08:33 AM

also check out today's app at GAOTD: Background optimizer.

OMG lanux128, that sounds like "rubbing salt into someone's wounds".

lanux128 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2008, 01:30 PM »

Quote from: PhilB66 on January 31, 2008, 11:38 AM

Quote from: lanux128 on January 31, 2008, 08:33 AM
also check out today's app at GAOTD: Background optimizer.

OMG lanux128, that sounds like "rubbing salt into someone's wounds".

oh! no harm is intended.. it is just my nature to group similar programs so that it is easier for comparison. ok, i'll refrain myself until further notice.