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Title: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on November 01, 2005, 09:17 AM
Check out http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Locate/1044509669/1 (if you want to install the latest beta you need to install the latest full version from the Locate homepage (listed there too) before you install the beta)

Publisher's Description:
Locate saves names of all files in your hard drives to file database. After that you can locate files. This program works like updatedb and locate in Unix systems. Win32 based locating program also included.

Is that the perfect replacement for Windows' Win+f search? It is!  :-*

Only needing ~5 seconds (yes, that includes typing your search) to find a file? Great!!

I tested Locate waaaay back and didn't look at it again for a long time - it's unbelievable how great it works now; and it only uses 2 MB RAM! This is how Locate could look for you (the great (and free!) FastStone Image Viewer (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1106292852/1) is in the background):

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5904/dcforumlocateplusfiv3qt.png)


By clicking the Presets button (or using its keyboard shortcut, which I prefer) a menu pops up, showing you the searches you already saved, and allowing you to remove and add presets. Presets are very helpful for those searches that you are using again and again. A preset could include filenames, extensions, size limits... you name it. Very helpful!

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9038/dcpostlocatepresets0jj.png)


This is the latest settings window - you can now set the first two "Locate dialog" settings to always have Locate running in the tray when you hit ESC or click the close button - then just press Windows+f to have it pop up again - very handy:

(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2778/dcforumlocategeneralsettings5m.png)


Here you see the Database settings. A Database could be one partition or just one or three directories - you decide! You could also exclude certain paths. It's very easy to create several databases with include and exclude options. Clicking on one and clicking "Edit" will get you to the details:

(http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7049/dcforumlocatedatabases8xs.png)


In the Auto update settings you can choose when which database is supposed to be updated - for example, you can set one not-so-interesting database to be only updated once a day (should you really need an up to date database you can just right-click the tray icon, indexing is quite fast) and another one every hour - splitting them up saves time in this case:

(http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/5128/dcforumlocateautoupdate9kl.png)


What I also like about Locate is that I can set it to close to the tray when I hit ESC. I'm using AutoHotkey to start it (bring it back from tray) instead of Windows' own search when I press Win+F, and I use Shift+Win+F to run a second instance of Locate when I need it:

#Persistent
#f::
IfExist,C:\Programme\Locate
  run, C:\Programme\Locate\Locate32.exe
return


#Persistent
#+f::
IfExist,C:\Programme\Locate
  run, C:\Programme\Locate\Locate32.exe -i
return


Update: Searches like *URL.txt;*lol*.jpg work in the latest beta now!

Update: I asked "how to set Locate to 'activate' the first found file when the search is done (like in the Windows search) or maybe even already when the first file is found." - thanks to the nice coder this features has been added!

[edit by mouser: please upload pictures instead of linking to them!]

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Carol Haynes on November 01, 2005, 10:13 AM
Looks interesting - could it be used as a backend for find and run (rather than GDS) ???

By the way the homepage location for this is http://locate32.webhop.org/ which also has a daily builds section ... no source code unfortunately ...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: m_s on November 01, 2005, 10:56 AM
I have used Mythicsoft's Agent Ransack for a few years, and found it to be very good.  Recently upgraded to their FileLocatorPro, and I am incubating a mini-review of that, which I'll hopefully have up in a few weeks' time.  Thanks for pointer to Locate, which I'm trying now...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Veign on November 01, 2005, 12:26 PM
Give Seeker  (http://www.veign.com/download_app.asp?app=104)a try and tell me what you think..

It does not create index files but is an active search and replace tool. 

Features:
    * Search for files based on a file name mask, multiple file extensions, date restriction, or size restriction
    * Replace text inside of files
    * Command line parameter support
    * Regular expression support
    * Preview all search results in a convienent highlight view mode (from detailed or structure report mode)
    * Powerful reporting with four different modes

I use this tool all the time for doing mass find and replace in website I design.  Also good for locating code quickly in web dev projects. 

A new version will be worked on next year that will introduce special file handlers to search inside of proprietary files with their native search tools (like Word and Excel documents).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Edvard on November 01, 2005, 01:31 PM
Since experimenting with replacement shells, I have been on a hunt for file finder apps for a long time. I am familiar with the Unix thingummys, I'll give Locate 3.0 a try. If you like the Unix way of doing things, you might also try the tools from the CygWin Project (http://www.cygwin.com/) and pipe your Locate through Grep to get multiple 'hits'. On the other hand, things I have found so far as useful replacements for file finding:

the ever-venerable Agent Ransack
http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/ (http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/)

newcomer ScanDir (and current favorite...)
http://www.skybird.net/ScanDir/ (http://www.skybird.net/ScanDir/)

supposed-to-be-really-cool-but-never-worked-for-me XFind (from the makers of power tool X-Setup)
http://www.xteq.com/products/xfnd/ (http://www.xteq.com/products/xfnd/)

$.02

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: mouser on November 01, 2005, 01:41 PM
speaking of agent ransack, we may have a few copies to give away this month of it's bigger non-free brother, FileLocator Pro:
http://www.mythicsoft.com/flpro/default.aspx
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: mouser on November 01, 2005, 01:42 PM
never heard of scandir before - looks like its worth a try..

i couldn't use x-find if it still looks like this: http://www.xteq.com/products/xfnd/xfnd.jpg
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Edvard on November 01, 2005, 02:24 PM
Hehe
It does. ;D ScanDir is much nicer...
http://www.skybird.net/ScanDir/scd08.png (http://www.skybird.net/ScanDir/scd08.png)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: CGA on November 02, 2005, 04:47 AM
Check out http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Locate/1044509669/1

Publisher's Description:
Locate saves names of all files in your hard drives to file database. After that you can locate files. This program works like updatedb and locate in Unix systems. Win32 based locating program also included.

If you install the 3.0 Beta make sure to install the full 2.99 version first (read the readme in the archive you download).

Is that the perfect replacement for Windows' Win+f search? It looks that way!

I didn't test Locate for a long time and it's unbelievable how great it works now! :D

Lots of new options too, I just didn't yet find out

a) how to do searches like *URL.txt;*lol*.jpg (to search for several files in one single search) like they are possible in the Windows search.

b) how to set Locate to 'activate' the first found file when the search is done (like in the Windows search) or maybe even already when the first file is found.

Anyone knows?


I suggest You contact the author, [email protected]. He usually responds quickly to your questions.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on November 06, 2005, 05:41 AM
He did :D

(Also bumping the topic here, check the images in my first post!)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Zero3K on November 08, 2005, 09:29 AM
The latest build now supports searching for multiple files at the same time (ex: *.tmp;*.bak).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: dpierron on November 11, 2005, 08:21 AM
Very interesting software here, specially this 'Locate' thingie...
However, I'm wondering why nobody mentionned the excellent Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) with its almighty all-powerful search feature ?
It's one of the few shareware I actually bought  8)
David.
http://www.davidsoft.org
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on November 11, 2005, 08:38 AM
Very interesting software here, specially this 'Locate' thingie...
Hi there! You need to test way more stuff, especially mouser's Screenshot Captor and skrommel's Coding Snacks on this very site!

However, I'm wondering why nobody mentionned the excellent Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) with its almighty all-powerful search feature ?
It's one of the few shareware I actually bought  8)
Then you should consider donating a few bucks here to enjoy this LOAD of great programs! :) Makes forum usage more fun too btw!

I tried Total Commander once but didn't really like the look and feel of it.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Innuendo on November 11, 2005, 12:58 PM
Total Commander is truly the one ring that rules them all. With more plugins than ya can shake a stick at one would be hard-pressed to find anything it cannot do. It's got a mass-rename feature that cannot be beat, IMHO.

It's old school, however. Based on the powerful, but venerable Norton Commander it's for those of us who were weaned on DOS & if a mouse was ever spotted next to our computers we knew it was time to set out traps.  8)

Icons, menus, and toolbars can all be custom-crafted to taste. All hotkeys are changeable. It supports skinning by programs such as WindowBlinds & StyleXP. Its looks can be changed to suit one's fancy.

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: mouser on November 11, 2005, 03:35 PM
Total Commander seems to be one of those apps that people love or cannot stand using.  No doubt it is super powerful. The interface seems to suit some people and rub others the wrong way.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Edvard on November 11, 2005, 03:43 PM
Funny thing, whenever I'm in windows-land I can't stand flat, text based interfaces. When in Linux (Slackware, natch...) using KDE or XFCE, I reach for Midnight Commander every time. Go figure.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on November 12, 2005, 12:29 AM
It's old school, however. Based on the powerful, but venerable Norton Commander it's for those of us who were weaned on DOS & if a mouse was ever spotted next to our computers we knew it was time to set out traps.  8)
:D

I'm using keyboard only whereever possible, but still prefer programs with a nice UI, that don't look like coded in 1992 ;)

Icons, menus, and toolbars can all be custom-crafted to taste. All hotkeys are changeable. It supports skinning by programs such as WindowBlinds & StyleXP. Its looks can be changed to suit one's fancy.
I use Windows 2000 Pro (don't like XP that much) and don't want to use WindowBlinds. So there's no way to improve the look, right?

You should do a mini-review to wake our interest in that, keep it small like I did for Locate here if you like: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1385.new;topicseen#new  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Carol Haynes on November 13, 2005, 08:04 PM
I use Windows 2000 Pro (don't like XP that much)

Can I ask why? (Just curious). If it is the 'blue theme' that can easily be turned off, and you can revert the Start Menu etc. so it all looks like 2000.

Granted it isn't a huge increase in terms of new stuff over 2000 but it is better supported these days by MS, and looks like it will be more so in the future (despite the huge corporate use of win2k).

I swapped from W98 to W2k and then WXP and I must say I was reluctant at each step (familiarity I suppose) but I have grown to like WinXP.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: mouser on November 13, 2005, 08:07 PM
btw.
a lot of us really dislike the default windows xp "skinned" blue appearance and start menu, etc.,
thankfully it can easily be changed into "classic" look which looks just like win2k.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on November 14, 2005, 12:29 AM
I use Windows 2000 Pro (don't like XP that much)

Can I ask why? (Just curious). If it is the 'blue theme' that can easily be turned off, and you can revert the Start Menu etc. so it all looks like 2000.
Yeah, I know, but when I decided what to use for this PC XP was still waiting for SP1 and I prefer an OS that's most stable and secure for the user. There were some other reasons too, don't remember right now.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: rjbull on November 14, 2005, 04:13 AM
It's old school, however. Based on the powerful, but venerable Norton Commander it's for those of us who were weaned on DOS & if a mouse was ever spotted next to our computers we knew it was time to set out traps.  8)
:D

I'm using keyboard only whereever possible, but still prefer programs with a nice UI, that don't look like coded in 1992 ;)

But... but...  that was back when programmers were REAL PROGRAMMERS, and wrote REAL PROGRAMS :) Many in assembler, too, for which you need to be close to genius level.  Anyone ever looked at Vsevolod Volkov's assembler-written Volkov Commander, which some people thought the best Norton Commander clone ever for DOS?

I love Total Commander; it was the first program I found that made Windows almost semi-tolerable.  I think Locate still has a place beside TC because it's indexed, which makes file-searching quicker.  It's one of a small class of like programs which include Catfish, Cathy, and  recently FastFind (most of these are noted at http://www.tinyapps.org).  However, on a quick look, Locate may well be one of the best, perhaps THE best.

Being at heart a DOS command-line person I also use another Locate, the one by Charles Dye;  http://www.highfiber.com/~raster/freeware.htm

It has a vast array of features well worth checking out by anyone who uses command lines, which amongst other things means that you can build your own batch files for specific jobs.  Though a DOS program (hand-coded assembler again) it understands Windows LFNs, extending its usefulness.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on January 09, 2006, 10:27 AM
Just want to tell you that I'm even more satisfied with the latest Locate version (check the URL in my first post in this thread). Some tiny but helpful changes had been made.

It's still beta but works perfectly here!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on January 09, 2006, 01:08 PM
I moved the upcoming Assembly discussion to https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=2062 :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Darwin on January 09, 2006, 08:33 PM
I use Windows 2000 Pro (don't like XP that much)

I swapped from W98 to W2k and then WXP and I must say I was reluctant at each step (familiarity I suppose) but I have grown to like WinXP.

Funny, I took that exact same route, kicked and screamed the whole way but find that I wouldn't back now. I find Win2k tolearble (very stable) but LOATHE Win98 now and can't believe I was so reluctant to leave it!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: rjbull on January 10, 2006, 03:38 AM
Veign,

Give Seeker  (http://www.veign.com/download_app.asp?app=104)a try and tell me what you think..

    * Regular expression support

Regexps are nice, but I'd prefer Boolean searches for extracting information from files.  Also, I often want to make lists of files for use in other processes;  can it save its "hit lists?"
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on February 12, 2006, 05:57 AM
I'm now using the latest Locate beta from http://locate32.webhop.org/ - he improved it again!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on March 07, 2006, 10:37 AM
Another update (see first post for URL) and a nice FileForum review:

A masterpiece!

I have been using this utility for a while now. As others have remarked, it is impressively quick. It usually delivers results before you've even finished clicking the Search button, and makes XP's Search tool look very poor.

Janne's decision to make it freeware was smart. It has gained her a lot of recognition and kudos as a programmer.

I gave it "5 (high)" but it deserves "high 5" :)

Nothing to add there... (besides the fact that Janne is still male) :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: f0dder on March 07, 2006, 12:15 PM
unrelated, but... "rainy day" windows theme, eh? Thought I was the only one ;)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on March 07, 2006, 12:25 PM
unrelated, but... "rainy day" windows theme, eh? Thought I was the only one ;)
Huh? :D

I suppose you are talking about the first image in my first post in this thread? If so, read that line above that image again :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: f0dder on March 22, 2006, 02:38 PM
unrelated, but... "rainy day" windows theme, eh? Thought I was the only one ;)
Huh? :D

I suppose you are talking about the first image in my first post in this thread? If so, read that line above that image again :)

"Rainy Day" color scheme, not windows theme, sorry :) (ie, desktop properties -> apperance tab -> color scheme dropdown).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on March 22, 2006, 02:52 PM
"Rainy Day" color scheme, not windows theme, sorry :) (ie, desktop properties -> apperance tab -> color scheme dropdown).
Ah... :)

It's called slate here - and it matches the color perfectly:

(http://resourcescommittee.house.gov/subcommittees/emr/usgsweb/photogallery/images/Slate%203_jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: f0dder on March 22, 2006, 02:58 PM
Ah doh, slate and rainy day look pretty much alike :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: zridling on April 14, 2006, 05:14 PM
Having removed both desktop search apps I had installed on my system, I've come to rely on Veign's Seeker (http://www.veign.com/download_app.asp?app=104) to find stray or lost files. It's fast, easy, and leaves my computer alone when I'm not using it.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: Veign on April 14, 2006, 06:22 PM
Veign,

Give Seeker  (http://www.veign.com/download_app.asp?app=104)a try and tell me what you think..

    * Regular expression support

Regexps are nice, but I'd prefer Boolean searches for extracting information from files.  Also, I often want to make lists of files for use in other processes;  can it save its "hit lists?"

There are four reporting modes for search / replace results.  Two of them are text-file based which can be saved and printed.

Also, there is now support for looking inside of Word and Excel files (Excel search will report what sheet and cells the search items had been found).

The application was created out of need for a fast and easy to use search and replace tool.  I wanted something I could tweak to be exactly what I need.

Should also add its Donationware to follow the spirit of this website...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool
Post by: brotherS on April 15, 2006, 02:42 AM
Having removed both desktop search apps I had installed on my system, I've come to rely on Veign's Seeker (http://www.veign.com/download_app.asp?app=104) to find stray or lost files. It's fast, easy, and leaves my computer alone when I'm not using it.
Err... did you even try Locate for a day or three? It's a *totally* different approach, you can't really compare those two programs.

If you like Seeker, what about posting a Seeker Mini-Review? :)

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on May 10, 2006, 03:39 PM
I updated the review above a bit to reflect my grown Locate knowledge and added another image. Locate turned out to be one of my most often used apps!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: Josh on May 26, 2006, 08:29 PM
As stated by mouser in this thread, https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=3808 , I am now the official screencaster for dc.com. As such, I am pleased to release my first cast. This one demonstrates locate and gives a basic overview of the program. So, without further ado, here goes nothing.

https://www.donationcoder.com/MiniReviews/Locate/

Also, please turn up your volume, as this is my first screencast, I have yet to perfect the microphone usage so volume is really low. Anyways, enjoy!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on May 27, 2006, 04:14 AM
Nice first screencast! I like how you showed how blazing fast Locate is :)

Are you going to develop some kind of internal checklist for what to cover in a screencast review? Maybe a quick glance at a program's options would be helpful too?

Also, please turn up your volume, as this is my first screencast, I have yet to perfect the microphone usage so volume is really low. Anyways, enjoy!
You also might want to use a headset microphone (I read ones with background noise cancelling aren't expensive anymore) and increase the "mouth to mic" distance a bit for improved sound quality.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on May 27, 2006, 02:43 PM
how blazing fast Locate is :)

But you have to keep its indexes up to date, which takes time.  OK, you can schedule that, but it still has to be done.


Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on May 27, 2006, 03:55 PM
I finally got around to installing Locate, and I must say it's a treat. I don't think I'm going to use it as my only file-search app, because of the database update issue, but it certainly is nice for doing fast finds of "archived" material.

I've never been a fan of those desktop search apps, I don't like using a browser for searching my *files*, and I don't really need content-indexed searches. So Locate is a perfect compromise for me.

For "bleeding edge" :P searches, the built-in search of xplorer^2 full seems to do the trick. I guess I should check out Seeker too, though.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on May 28, 2006, 05:18 AM
how blazing fast Locate is :)
But you have to keep its indexes up to date, which takes time.  OK, you can schedule that, but it still has to be done.
Of course that has to be done, but - as you say - that's all done automatically. I let Locate update its databases about every two hours and once at night, and that's good enough for >95% of my searches. If I really need to search for newer/changed content, I just press a button to update the databases right now.

IMHO this is nothing to hold against Locate - you only can have your seaches blazing fast if databases exist, and this is the best way possible. Some people somehow manage to never search for files (I don't know whether they have a small HD, just don't know about Windows' search or simply prefer to click through lots and lots of folders), but if you search for files daily: install Locate!


I finally got around to installing Locate, and I must say it's a treat. I don't think I'm going to use it as my only file-search app, because of the database update issue, but it certainly is nice for doing fast finds of "archived" material.
No issue here, see above 8)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on May 28, 2006, 03:43 PM
For "bleeding edge" :P searches, the built-in search of xplorer^2 full seems to do the trick.

The one in Total Commander is excellent  :)  For some purposes, I use a command-line program also called Locate, by Charles Dye (http://www.highfiber.com/~raster/freeware.htm)

Not blindingly fast, but a myriad of useful options, especially if you need to build batch files, or prefer command lines.

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on May 28, 2006, 03:52 PM
Not blindingly fast,
Not too surprising, especially not on the first run of it after you've started windows - it's a DOS program, and NTVDM does take a bit to start :)

The command-line locate from locate32 has a nice bunch of options as well, btw - regular expressions and whatnot.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on May 28, 2006, 04:12 PM
Not blindingly fast,
Not too surprising, especially not on the first run of it after you've started windows - it's a DOS program, and NTVDM does take a bit to start :)

But it does have Windows LFN display, which is nice.

The command-line locate from locate32 has a nice bunch of options as well, btw - regular expressions and whatnot.

I didn't know Locate32 had a CLI!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: kimmchii on June 16, 2006, 03:40 AM
wow, Locate is really fast, thanks brotherS.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on June 17, 2006, 04:36 AM
wow, Locate is really fast, thanks brotherS.
Yes! :Thmbsup:

I also love the little details, which I discovered over time.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: mikem on June 28, 2006, 08:20 AM
Locate32 question:

ive used it at it seems good, but i have 1 user problem.

On the laptop theres 1 hidden partition for a backup/restore program i use.

Locate32 detects this partition and errors out, and the search stops.

Theres the custom settings where you select partitions, but heres another problem.

Since this is a laptop, its used with maybe 4 different external harddrives, spread over different locations.

And the program errors out again if one of these are not on.



sum up: shouldnt there be a way that the program doesnt halt if it cant search one partition?

Edit..found it..hm typical.

Easy to miss, and should maybe be unchecked at start
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: urlwolf on June 28, 2006, 05:07 PM
Update: I asked "how to set Locate to 'activate' the first found file when the search is done (like in the Windows search) or maybe even already when the first file is found." - thanks to the nice coder this features has been added!


How do you do that? I have v. 3.06.6060 but cannot see it in the options...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on June 29, 2006, 11:51 PM
How do you do that? I have v. 3.06.6060 but cannot see it in the options...

There is "Activate the first found item after search is completed" option (under Results/Result list) in Advanced settings tab.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on June 30, 2006, 05:01 AM
Well, I could also introduce myself:

Hello every one. I am the author of Locate32. If you have some problems with program, feel free to contact me (you can also tell about it here, I'll try to watch this thread). Feature requiests are also welcome. However, lately it is quite hard to find enough time to work with locate and therefore bigger features may take time (possibly years), unless it a small and easy-to-implement things).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: mouser on June 30, 2006, 05:42 AM
welcome to the site jmj!  great to have you stop by.  :Thmbsup:

i should also suggest to all those locate lovers out there, now is your chance to donate a few credits to jmj to show your appreciation.  so if you've got some spare credits, now's your chance

remember, to give someone some credits, just click on the gold coin under their name.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: mikem on July 01, 2006, 08:23 AM
hi, ive somewhat managed to set this up.

but i admit i have some more "reading" to do.

Anyways, i use it on a laptop and i have 4 external harddrives, 2 at home and 2 at work.

Ive set it to update at certain times during the day.

But my problem is that when it updates and not one of the drives are connected, the results for that drive are erased.

Is there anyway to prevent this? to keep the search results

for instance im at home, do a search and find a file located at "H: work hd 1"
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on July 01, 2006, 11:14 AM
Make own database for each external drive and choose "Stop if root unavailable". Then locate should stop updating if drive is missing and leave that database untouched.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: mikem on July 01, 2006, 11:52 AM
that was fast..

thanks,- seems to work on the drives here.

This program keeps getting better, being able to search ext. drive not even connected through database.

should have found it before
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on August 04, 2006, 05:16 AM
Update: Searches like *URL.txt;*lol*.jpg work in the latest beta now!

I must have misread that.  I thought you meant that it would search for both *URL.txt and *lol*.jpg at the same time.  It doesn't seem to, using Version 3.0 beta 5.10100.  Is that correct?

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on August 04, 2006, 05:24 AM
Update: Searches like *URL.txt;*lol*.jpg work in the latest beta now!

I must have misread that.  I thought you meant that it would search for both *URL.txt and *lol*.jpg at the same time.  It doesn't seem to, using Version 3.0 beta 5.10100.  Is that correct?
It works and always worked here, I use exactly that feature several times every week. In the "Advanced" tab, I have only the first option checked - you too?

But why are you using an old beta? I use 2.99.6.7240.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kimmchii on August 04, 2006, 05:29 AM
it works for me.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on August 04, 2006, 05:41 AM
In the "Advanced" tab, I have only the first option checked - you too?

I haven't got anything ticked in "Advanced"...

But why are you using an old beta? I use 2.99.6.7240.

Looks like that might be the reason.  Installed 6.7240; multiple wildcard searches work now.  Many thanks!  :)

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on October 02, 2006, 02:27 PM
Meanwhile, Locate is at version 3.0 beta 6.9030, and I still love it! :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on October 02, 2006, 11:36 PM
If someone is interested, there is small fix for 6.9030:
http://www.uku.fi/~jmhuttun/files/tmp/locate32_230906.zip
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tinyvillager on October 03, 2006, 01:47 AM
 Thank you sir,this has become my search utility of choice.
Keep up the good work. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on October 09, 2006, 01:02 AM
RC1 (2.99.6.10080) is now released, it's here:
http://www.uku.fi/~jmhuttun/files/locate32-2.99.6.10800.exe (64 bit: http://www.uku.fi/~jmhuttun/files/locate32-x64-2.99.6.10800.exe).


Lately I have had too little time to work with Locate (that probably will be the case in future too) and  therefore the program's todo list is just grown all the time. So I am asking if someone here would be keen on doing something for the program. At least, there are couple of things which would be quite easy to implement as "external modules", for instance, features related to Explorer (shell extensions):
- a toolbar for Locate in Task bar
- better context menu commands that, for example, makes easier to create databases for cataloquing CD-ROMs
- an extension to Explorer which makes possible to see searches as a part of filesystem (e.g, folders like Extensions.{692F0339-CBAA-47e6-B5B5-3B84DB604E87})
- integration in the File/Open dialogs

The full todo list can be found from the readme.txt file which is included in the installation package.

I can provide more information if some one is interested. I'll also publish the source code when the final 3.0 version is relased, so after that other things are also possible (I can also send the source code right now if someone wants it).


Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on October 09, 2006, 09:57 AM
I wouldn't mind hacking a bit away at the source code myself, but I'm realistic and I know I can in no way maintain a developer role for it - just look how erratic my release schedule for fSekrit (http://fSekrit.donationcoder.com) has been. It would be nice if you opensource locate, with some sane (ie, non-gpl, perhaps BSD or ZLIB) license.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on October 09, 2006, 11:15 PM
I haven't consideres which license to use, but BSD would be good.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tim254 on October 20, 2006, 12:47 PM
I've used alot of hard drive file finding programs, and spent days looking for one several years ago.  The one that I found that did most of what I want is FileTracer.  It's not perfect, and it's not free, but it works great.  It works in real-time and I've never noticed a system slowdown because of it. 

One of it's coolest features is the capability to work with "open file" and "save file" dialogs.  I can find any file on my system and paste it's path within seconds with FileTracer, no wasting time browsing to the file via the "open" dialog box. 

I really only have one issue with it ... if you add / remove external hard drives all the time and you reboot, it wants to re-index your hard drives.  However, if you press ignore it'll still work since it didn't delete the database.  One last thing, the developer is not very responsive, at least he hasn't been with me. 

I've evaluated Locate 3.0 (plus dozen of other programs) and I didn't like the way it work in comparison to FileTracer.  However, my taste in software is different that most people's anyway.  I don't like SyncBack either ... I'm a SecondCopy fan. 

http://www.filetracer.com/

--
Tim

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vegas on October 20, 2006, 08:03 PM
for me it's either Locate (http://locate32.webhop.org/) or File Locator Pro (http://www.mythicsoft.com/filelocatorpro/), no exceptions ;)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on October 21, 2006, 05:03 AM
I've used alot of hard drive file finding programs, and spent days looking for one several years ago.  The one that I found that did most of what I want is FileTracer.  It's not perfect, and it's not free, but it works great.  It works in real-time and I've never noticed a system slowdown because of it. 
If you like it so much, please consider to write a mini-review about it. If "works in real-time" means that it doesn't index files it's not really comparible to Locate, since you don't have the blazing speed then.

One of it's coolest features is the capability to work with "open file" and "save file" dialogs.  I can find any file on my system and paste it's path within seconds with FileTracer, no wasting time browsing to the file via the "open" dialog box. 
I'm not sure I understand 100% what you mean, but Locate offers lots of stuff around 'making your life easier with files and paths' too.

I really only have one issue with it ... if you add / remove external hard drives all the time and you reboot, it wants to re-index your hard drives.  However, if you press ignore it'll still work since it didn't delete the database.  One last thing, the developer is not very responsive, at least he hasn't been with me. 
Hm... so you have to pay for FileTracer, there's a severe bug and the coder won't fix it? That's 3 more reasons why I love Locate! :D

I've evaluated Locate 3.0 (plus dozen of other programs) and I didn't like the way it work in comparison to FileTracer.
Please share what you missed in Locate, it just might be added! :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tim254 on October 22, 2006, 10:04 PM
Thanks brotherS for the detailed response.  You convinced me ... I'll write up a mini review.  It's tough to explain via screenshots and you really can't show the power of it unless you see it in action.  So, I downloaded Wink and I plan to post a nice presentation of it's features (learning Wink now).  It's amazing to me that the author of this program hasn't made a better website for it.

I'll demonstrate the "open file" and "save files" in my Wink flash presentation.  It's very cool.   

Yes, it might not be perfect, but there really is nothing out there that matches it IMHO.  Since Locate isn't real-time it's not in the same category.  It's a great program, but I need real-time.  I tried AVA-Find and it's missing several cool features of FileTracer, like automatic refresh and the ability to edit the file types search which I'll show via Wink.

--
Tim


Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nudone on October 23, 2006, 03:03 AM
just been trying 'filetracer'.

the working with 'open/save file dialog boxes' and the windows explorer address field allow you to quickly input a 'filetracer' search result into the dialog box - or the explorer address field.

so, you could be working inside a program and want to quickly open a file into the program but can't remember where it's located.

you open the standard 'file open' dialog box within the program and then hit the F12 key to bring up 'filetracer'.

then search for the file using 'filetracer'. select the file you want from the results list and hit enter - this then copies the result back into the opened 'file open' dialog box. from here you proceed as you usually would and open the file into the program.

now, this might seem like a pointless thing to do - you could just bring up 'filetracer' (or locate, etc), do your search and open the file as you'd expect.

the thing that is clever about the 'filetracer' method is that you can avoid opening the default program that is associated with the the file type you are searching for - assuming the software you are using is not the program with the default association. if it is the default prog then i see no advantage in doing it the 'filetracer' way.

the 'save file' dialog works in the same way - which is more of an original way of working - you'd be searching for a file that you wish to overwrite. not entirely sure how useful this is but it's certainly unique so could be quite handy.

the ability to copy the file/folder name out of 'filetracer' into an explorer address field of the in focus window is also a neat kind of trick. how useful it is, i really don't know. i can see that it would be helpful to quickly open searched for folders within the explorer window you've got open - rather than keep opening new explorer windows from the results found in Locate, etc. (i think that is how they would work).



the most important function of 'filetracer' has got to be the real time way that it works. as far as i can see, the database doesn't need to be refreshed at certain intervals as it's constantly updating itself. as soon as a new file/folder is made or moved, 'filetracer' nows where it is. now, i have to say, that's such an obvious thing to expect from all these file/folder finder programs i can't really understand why it's not a function of them all. it's the main reason why i don't use these types of programs - having to update the database after i've made a few new files/folders seems like a major annoyance, but i guess it's just how you use your pc.

(i'll just clarify - this 'real time' method of working is not like how 'find and run robot' works. the search isn't performed in real time, 'filetracer' doesn't have to scan your hard drives to obtain the result. the 'real time' aspect is that 'file tracer' nows exactly what is happening on your system as you are working on it - the results list that it produces are instant as they are drawn from a database - it just appears to be modifying the database constantly as you work.)

would i use 'filetracer' because of the features it has that the others don't? maybe, but i doubt it. i don't like the shortcut keys - no win key - so i really can't be bothered with it. i tend to know where all my files/folders are - so i can get to things relatively quickly anyway - just as quick as trying to find the file/folder i want from the result list that these types of programs throw up.


as for 'Locate' - it's a great program - but it is lacking the 'real time' ability to keep a check on files and folders - hopefully it will be implemented at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nudone on October 23, 2006, 03:52 AM
i'd like to make a suggestion, if i may be so bold, for improving 'Locate'...

if the real time system monitoring was implemented (like in 'filetracer'), i'd also like to see something similar to the way 'find and run robot' displays the search results, i.e. real time sorting/displaying of the results as you type.

if these things could be done then i think i'd be converted - otherwise, i think i'll wait for the time that 'find and run robot' eventually obtains a more system wide ability to quickly search for files/folders.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on October 23, 2006, 03:08 PM
i'd like to make a suggestion, if i may be so bold, for improving 'Locate'...

if the real time system monitoring was implemented (like in 'filetracer'), i'd also like to see something similar to the way 'find and run robot' displays the search results, i.e. real time sorting/displaying of the results as you type.
Since real time system monitoring is slowing your system down by default (even if only a bit), I doubt it will be added to Locate. I don't miss that btw, I only rarely need to update my Locate databases manually between the scheduled intervals.

A 'display results as you type' feature though might come in real handy at times, could maybe be added as an alternative to how it works now. :up:
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nudone on October 23, 2006, 03:39 PM
i appreciate that real time monitoring must be slowing the system down - but i'd guess it's unnoticeable on modern computers. i certainly couldn't perceive any difference in the speed of my system.

i'd just say give 'filetracer' a quick try and if things felt sluggish then fair enough.

i certainly wouldn't want to see a feature implemented that did make the system less responsive but i honestly could not detect any difference when using 'filetracer'.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on October 24, 2006, 01:05 AM
Real time monitoring and "display result as you type" have been in the program's todo list for a long time. Both will be implemented so that those can be turned on and off.

btw. RC2 is out:  http://www.uku.fi/~jmhuttun/files/locate32-2.99.6.10220.exe
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vegas on October 24, 2006, 01:26 AM
There is one feature I have been wanting for a long time, but have never taken the time to speak up about it.  It would be quite helpful if the main search window (Name & Location) had a 4th dialog box below "Look In:"  Essentially what it would do is, whatever you type into that box is like a live filter of any search results that have been returned to you.  So it, wouldn't take up any processing power or run in the background, but as you type characters into that box it filters down the search results that were returned to you.  That way if i knew I was looking for a text file, but not sure which exactly, and had a bunch a different combinations to search, I could just search .txt, then, saving myself alot of searches and leaving every possible file I'm looking for (.txt) in front of me, I could continuously try different typed combinations to narrow down my results (and they narrow as i type in that box), just without having to execute more searches.

Basically for me, it's like executing a Newsleecher search then filtering the results using the 'live' results filter.
Make sense?  I hope! :)  Any chance this could happen for locate?

Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nudone on October 24, 2006, 02:05 AM
Real time monitoring and "display result as you type" have been in the program's todo list for a long time. Both will be implemented so that those can be turned on and off.

btw. RC2 is out:  http://www.uku.fi/~jmhuttun/files/locate32-2.99.6.10220.exe

fantastic. the best of both worlds being able to turn the 'real time' monitoring on and off. great idea.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on October 24, 2006, 03:17 AM
There is one feature I have been wanting for a long time, but have never taken the time to speak up about it.  It would be quite helpful if the main search window (Name & Location) had a 4th dialog box below "Look In:"  Essentially what it would do is, whatever you type into that box is like a live filter of any search results that have been returned to you.  So it, wouldn't take up any processing power or run in the background, but as you type characters into that box it filters down the search results that were returned to you.  That way if i knew I was looking for a text file, but not sure which exactly, and had a bunch a different combinations to search, I could just search .txt, then, saving myself alot of searches and leaving every possible file I'm looking for (.txt) in front of me, I could continuously try different typed combinations to narrow down my results (and they narrow as i type in that box), just without having to execute more searches.

If  "display result as you type" feature, isn't this just a second way to do same?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vegas on October 24, 2006, 05:58 AM
Given the right search parameters, I would imagine you could accomplish this.  But I would be one that would prefer to keep the live indexing turned off if at all possible, thats all.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vegas on November 04, 2006, 02:29 PM
I just want to give more praise to this awesome little program.  I was speaking with Janne (author of Locate32) via email and asked if there was a way to donate,  Janne said no one has ever donated or made the effort.  This is unheard of as far as I'm concerned.  So, Janne added a donation link (paypal) to the Main page (http://locate32.webhop.org/) in the upper left corner.  I sent a little dough and encourage others to do the same if you find this program makes your life a little easier and have some spare change to throw around.  The fact that Locate32 continues to evolve and suggestions are actually considered is especially nice, given much of the software I've paid for doesnt do as well.  Thanks again.   -vegas
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on November 05, 2006, 11:32 AM
I have also got a couple of DonationCredits from members here which is laudable.

RC3 is out: http://www.uku.fi/~jmhuttun/files/locate32-2.99.6.11040.exe
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on January 09, 2007, 11:57 AM
Locate 3.0 is out! :Thmbsup: :-*
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Nighted on January 30, 2007, 02:19 AM
 :-* (Speechless)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tinyvillager on November 26, 2007, 02:11 PM
I know i'm bump'n an old thread,but this looked like the purest locate thread ...

Just letting fans of this application know along with a new update,the author of locate looks like he's kicked it into hypermode and now has a new site w/ forum.I see alot of visitors in the stats at the bottom of donationcoders forum and would highly recommend all you "lurkers" out there to give locate a try. :Thmbsup: 
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on November 26, 2007, 05:18 PM
I know i'm bump'n an old thread,but this looked like the purest locate thread ...

Just letting fans of this application know along with a new update,the author of locate looks like he's kicked it into hypermode and now has a new site w/ forum.I see alot of visitors in the stats at the bottom of donationcoders forum and would highly recommend all you "lurkers" out there to give locate a try. :Thmbsup: 
-tinyvillager link=topic=1385.msg87 :Thmbsup:764#msg87764 date=1196107913

Oooh, thanks for telling - I hadn't added locate32 to website watcher, so wouldn't have noticed myself! :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on November 27, 2007, 02:19 AM
But remember that the new site is still underconstruction and occasianally may not work at all (one such sitution is soon when we install some new components).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tomos on November 27, 2007, 06:10 AM
just a reminder,
Link is:-
http://locate32.webhop.org/
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on November 30, 2007, 12:52 PM
I've used Locate32 and really liked it but then I tried File Tracer, just out of curiosity. Locate is a more refined program - far better GUI, way more customizable. I have to say though, when it comes to sheer power and low resource consumption File Tracer is God! Locate pushed my CPU to 40% and beyond whenever it indexed the drives. File Tracer just has you create an index the first time you run it and then does an extremely efficient job of realtime monitoring. If Locate32 gives "blazing fast" results, File Tracer gives near-instantaneous ones. The realtime indexing is so fast, if I search for "document" and open document.txt from the results, it shows up the resultant document.lnk from the 'Recent' folder 3 seconds after I run document.txt.

The most amazing part is, it seems to sitting at 0% CPU at most times. Locate consistently sat at 1.5% CPU in my case even when it was not doing a thing. As an additional plus File Tracer seems to have something like a condensed version of Filemon , I can comfortably view the realtime file system activity without having to filter out several apps like in Filemon.

Don't get me wrong, I love Locate32 but when something does its core job much more faster, much more effectively (no indexing required) AND uses a fraction of the resources you gotta give it its due.   
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: edbro on November 30, 2007, 01:11 PM
Does anybody use Locate alongside any of the content search engines such as GDS? I like the content search but love the speed of Locate. Any problems running both?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on November 30, 2007, 01:19 PM
Does anybody use Locate alongside any of the content search engines such as GDS? I like the content search but love the speed of Locate. Any problems running both?
No problem.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on November 30, 2007, 01:22 PM
I've used Locate32 and really liked it but then I tried File Tracer, just out of curiosity. Locate is a more refined program - far better GUI, way more customizable. I have to say though, when it comes to sheer power and low resource consumption File Tracer is God! Locate pushed my CPU to 40% and beyond whenever it indexed the drives.
Strange, I just had Locate update one DB and CPU usage never went above 10%, most of the time it was more like 4%.

Locate consistently sat at 1.5% CPU in my case even when it was not doing a thing.
That's strange too, Locate here is idling at 0% and jumps to 2% now and then. No idea why, might be a bug.

You could post your problems at the new forum @ http://www.locate32.net/forum
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tinjaw on November 30, 2007, 03:24 PM
Just tested.
idle = 0%
indexing < 9%
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: lanux128 on November 30, 2007, 03:48 PM
same here Locate idles at 0% and only once during the indexing the CPU jumped to 12.3% then dropped back.. maybe it was indexing through deep sub-folders..
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on November 30, 2007, 06:13 PM
If you mess with settings, you can end up with like 100% CPU usage in locate indexing... Do not turn on "Show found files only once".
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on December 01, 2007, 07:16 AM
maybe it was indexing through deep sub-folders..

Oh yeah, very heavy indexing in my case - pretty much everything except the mirrored backup folders.  :-[
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vixay on January 04, 2008, 01:47 AM
I don't know if this belongs in this thread, but i have a particular need and was wondering if locate32 would be able to fulfill it, basically it's about searching for files in networked drives, but having only one database for all users.

e.g.
\\Server\IT
\\Server\HR
\\Server\OP

are the three folders i want to index, and make searchable.
Each dept can have access to only their dept. files, except for management which can have access to all the files... so how would i got about it?

If i install locate on the server (it's not portable yet! unfortunately), and add the Servers C:\Dept (which contains IT, HR, & OP), then when searching i get results from all three! I want to restrict to specific departments

Installing and configuring for all user would be a pain! and would increase the load on the server unnecessarily! (50 users indexing the same file!).

any ideas/suggestions? Basically want to make it easy to find all server files quickly for different users but with only 1 update transaction.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 04, 2008, 06:46 AM
Hm, interesting problem.

I guess installing locate/update on the server, creating a database per user folder (probably *in* the user folder). The individual users are then granted permission to only their own database via NTFS permissions and/or the shares exposed by the server. Sounds doable?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: lanux128 on January 06, 2008, 03:29 AM
any ideas/suggestions? Basically want to make it easy to find all server files quickly for different users but with only 1 update transaction.

you can try posting the question at Janne's forums. that may give you quicker response.. but do share with us the outcome. :)

• Locate32 Support (http://www.locate32.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=59b5832d67e26a3a09d32da2d7c217e1)

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 06, 2008, 04:57 AM
vixay, Howabout if you create one database for IT, another for HR and third for OP and keep database files in server?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 06, 2008, 06:26 AM
vixay, Howabout if you create one database for IT, another for HR and third for OP and keep database files in server?
That's what I was trying to say :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: lanux128 on January 06, 2008, 07:51 AM
vixay, Howabout if you create one database for IT, another for HR and third for OP and keep database files in server?
well, that's a faster response than Janne's own forums.. :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 06, 2008, 08:37 AM
 :huh: it took two days here? Typically I'm not so slow.

f0dder: ahh ok, I though that you meant user's own folder

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 06, 2008, 08:46 AM
:huh: it took two days here? Typically I'm not so slow.

f0dder: ahh ok, I though that you meant user's own folder
Nope, just meant per-user folders&shares on the server, still keeping locate indexing and the database files on the server. But I can see that my post wasn't very clear :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vixay on January 11, 2008, 04:54 AM
vixay, Howabout if you create one database for IT, another for HR and third for OP and keep database files in server?
That's what I was trying to say :)

suggestion by jmj: vixay, Howabout if you create one database for IT, another for HR and third for OP and keep database files in server?


The problem with that is like this:
*Server*
IT.dbs stored in C:\Dept\IT (shared as \\Server\IT) and indexes only C:\Dept\IT (so file links are local!)
HR.dbs stored in C:\Dept\HR (shared as \\Server\HR) and indexes only C:\Dept\HR (so file links are local!)
OP.dbs stored in C:\Dept\OP (shared as \\Server\OP) and indexes only C:\Dept\OP (so file links are local!)
Locate32.exe stored in C:\Apps (shared as \\Server\Apps)

*User*
IT User: maps \\Server\IT to X:\ or can connect via UNC \\Server\IT
HR User: maps \\Server\HR to X:\ or can connect via UNC \\Server\HR
OP User: maps \\Server\OP to X:\ or can connect via UNC \\Server\OP
Management User: maps \\Server\Dept to Y:\
    therefore Y:\IT = C:\Dept\IT ...etc. for all depts

All users map \\Server\Apps to V:\
They can import settings for all databases, but won't have access to other departments databases. The can run Locate via V:\Apps\Locate32\Locate32.exe

*Updates*
Are done on the server for each database via scheduling.

*Searching*
Is done by users on their PCs

When they search they need references to resolve either
a) to their local drives (X:\filefound.txt) or
b) to UNC paths (\\Server\HR\filefound.txt)

but now, it resolves to C:\Dept\HR\filefound.txt!
and doesn't work for them!

The paths are different for each user!
for example:
on server:    C:\Dept\HR\filefound.txt
on HR user:   X:\filefound.txt or \\server\hr\filefound.txt
on Mgmt User: Y:\HR\filefound.txt


_current pains_
importing settings into each users pc

_possible solutions_

have 1 master user from each type who updates database, while the rest only search.
This would resolve the path issue from each users perspective, but it would be inefficient as you'd be indexing the same content 2-3 times! Plus you'd need special priveleges for that particular user to be able to update the database


any other ideas? I hear there are corporate search solutions or intranet scripts but those are slow compared to locate32 find as you type results.

_features in locate32 that would make this easier_

- portability (i.e. settings don't need to be imported)
- show results based on how files are accessible to user. i.e. Locate can put a KEYFILE at the root of each path it is indexing. Then locate the KEYFILE from the users current PC, and prepend the path to all the entries in a databse while displaying results. or allow user to add custom prefix/suffix to results.

then the deployment would be easier i think, for each database.


Or maybe i am crazy to think like this. Any better ideas?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vixay on January 11, 2008, 05:14 AM
http://www.locate32.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=82

link to locate32 forum where i posted this request.

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on January 11, 2008, 05:41 AM
I have been experimenting with Locate for network use (just by adding folders on some NAS I have and folders on other PCs on the network).

I find everything runs fine when they are all switched on but as soon as some of the paths are not available Locate takes ages to load - worse even if I remove the network paths from the index or even rebuild my DB from scratch using only local discs Locate still waits ages when you try and load it.

The only way I could get back to instant response was to use YourUninstaller to remove all traces of Locate and then reinstall from scratch.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 11, 2008, 07:06 AM
I find everything runs fine when they are all switched on but as soon as some of the paths are not available Locate takes ages to load - worse even if I remove the network paths from the index or even rebuild my DB from scratch using only local discs Locate still waits ages when you try and load it.
Yeah, I'm bitten by this thing as well, since I spin down the harddrives on my fileserver - when using locate, they spin up. It should be possible to run locate in a "don't check if the files still exist, only return results" mode...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 11, 2008, 07:11 AM
vixay: yeah, I started thinking about the names returned in locate vs. how the files are acessible to the user, a while after I checked this thread last, but forgot about it. I guess somebody would have to implement a "remapping" feature in locate, either in the database/updater, or the client-side locate.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on January 11, 2008, 08:34 AM
I find everything runs fine when they are all switched on but as soon as some of the paths are not available Locate takes ages to load - worse even if I remove the network paths from the index or even rebuild my DB from scratch using only local discs Locate still waits ages when you try and load it.
Yeah, I'm bitten by this thing as well, since I spin down the harddrives on my fileserver - when using locate, they spin up. It should be possible to run locate in a "don't check if the files still exist, only return results" mode...


The strange thing is that if you delete a file actually in the Locate results window the file is deleted correctly but locate doesn't update its DB until the next DB update. In which case why is it even interested to see if files and folders are present - surely it should just tell you where to find files and then complain if you try to go there when it is not available ?

Oddly in the settings you can tell it to ignore folders if they are not present during update - why can't you do that during 'offline' searching?

Strange behaviour!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 11, 2008, 09:19 AM
If you have slow or offline network drives, check that you have enabled "Use default icon for directories (use with slow network drives)" option in Advanced settings. In addition, you could try the following options in Advanced settings: "Do not save network drives and directories", "Do not add directories (except local drives) to the list" and "Disable updating (file information from database)" (this is probable what f0dder is looking for).

Btw. there is a remapping feature in Locate, see the thread in the Locate forum (link above in vixay's post).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on January 11, 2008, 09:34 AM
Sorry but that didn't answer the question really. I understand why it needs access to specified locations to update the database but why does it need to access anything just to open the search window (I am not talking about during the search - literally just opening the window to enter search criteria is incredibly slow).

Also even during a search why does it need to access anything - surely the whole point about have an index database is precisely to avoid looking at disk/network content to do a search ???
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 11, 2008, 09:39 AM
Janne: I have those options set that way, except for "Do not save network drives and directories" (as I do want to be able to quickly search the files on my fileserver). But simply scrolling the result view still generates a lot of filecalls to the items in the list...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 11, 2008, 09:41 AM
Sorry but that didn't answer the question really. I understand why it needs access to specified locations to update the database but why does it need to access anything just to open the search window (I am not talking about during the search - literally just opening the window to enter search criteria is incredibly slow).
That does sound weird.

Also even during a search why does it need to access anything - surely the whole point about have an index database is precisely to avoid looking at disk/network content to do a search ???
This one is simple - if you want accurate, up-to-date information about timestamp, size etc. of files, since they could have been changed since last index. Personally, I'd prefer fast-but-possibly-outdated, though, just haven't figured out how to tweak settings properly for that :)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 11, 2008, 09:58 AM
Sorry but that didn't answer the question really. I understand why it needs access to specified locations to update the database but why does it need to access anything just to open the search window (I am not talking about during the search - literally just opening the window to enter search criteria is incredibly slow).

Also even during a search why does it need to access anything - surely the whole point about have an index database is precisely to avoid looking at disk/network content to do a search ???

The reason why Locate hangs in startup is that it tryies to load icons for network directories, it should not access to network drives otherwise. At least that was a problem in my system. During searches, it access to files only if you want that ("Enable updating", "Don't show deleted/renamed/moved files", "Show type specified "Icons" turned on in Advanced setttings, etc.).

f0dder: "Disable updating (...)" option is there for, did you try that?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 11, 2008, 10:11 AM
f0dder: "Disable updating (...)" option is there for, did you try that?
Yup, "Disable updating (file information from database)" checked, "Do not add directoris (except local drives) to the list" checked, "Use default icon for directories (use with...)" checked.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 11, 2008, 10:21 AM
f0dder: "Disable updating (...)" option is there for, did you try that?
Yup, "Disable updating (file information from database)" checked, "Do not add directoris (except local drives) to the list" checked, "Use default icon for directories (use with...)" checked.

How about "Use type specified icons" and "Show file type"? The former causes calls when enabled and also the latter, at least if shell function is used (I'm not sure about my own way, I should check that).

btw. you are using 3.0.7.12310, right? Previous versions has a bug which activates background updater when you open settings dialog altought disable updating is chosen.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 11, 2008, 10:56 AM
I tried Process Monitor with Locate32 and used the following options in Advanced options:
"Use own method to generate file titles" checked
"Show type specified icons" unchecked
"Show file type (otherwise extension)" with "Use own method to get file types"
"Do not show tooltips" enabled
"Do not show deleted/named/moved files" disabled
"Disable updating (file information from databases)" checked
"Use default icon for directories (use with slow network drives)" enabled

Then I closed Locate32, turned loggin on Process Monitor, opened Locate and finally searched files in "\\server", and I didn't see any file operations related to files in \\server. Enabled "Show type specified icons" and saw lots of accesses to files in server.

But anyway, I tried to unplug my server and opened Locate32. Locate32 did hang on couple of seconds! I'll check that what Locate32 it is doing.

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on January 11, 2008, 11:10 AM
Thanks - by the way you need to update your weblink (in your profile) as it still points to the defunct version of your site. Why not add a signature with a logo to the LOCATE32 website so that people know you.

You have a great utility which I use everyday - and it is brilliant that you take an active interest in what is going on over here too  :Thmbsup: :-*
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 11, 2008, 11:28 AM
Now the website is updated, thank you for reminding me.

btw. f0dder, what is going on with those unicode related things in locate.exe?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on January 12, 2008, 07:12 AM
Turning off tooltips and "Show type specified icons" did the trick - but of course now there's only two icon types, "generic file" and "folder"; I do like visual clues for RAR archives, .chm files, et cetera... but obviously it would be a bit tricky to support that, as the default "get icon" API from windows also looks at .exe files to extract default icon etc.

Wrt. unicode output in locate.exe I put it a bit on hold, after realizing that Okke's plugin might not actually need any updating at all - but a lot of FARR would have to be rewritten >_<. I can brush up the modification a bit and commit to the repository, since unicode display would be nice to have for console users nonetheless.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 12, 2008, 10:04 AM
I can brush up the modification a bit and commit to the repository, since unicode display would be nice to have for console users nonetheless.

It would be nice if you do that.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on January 20, 2008, 10:08 AM
But anyway, I tried to unplug my server and opened Locate32. Locate32 did hang on couple of seconds! I'll check that what Locate32 it is doing.

This does not happen here anymore when the latest version (http://www.locate32.net/files/zip/locate32-3.0.8.01200.zip) is in usehere. Carol Haynes, could you try that?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on January 20, 2008, 11:46 AM
Initial test seems to work better - so long as it isn't looking for icons I can search for even unavailable network items.

One thing I did notice is that if I try to 'open the containing folder' for an item on a network share that is not available I don't get any error message at all t say the folder/file is not currently available.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on February 16, 2008, 02:44 PM
Let me point you to http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1044509669/1 (or http://www.locate32.net/). The latest version (stable beta) includes a "Find as you type" option, which is great in combination with all the existing features!

 :-*
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Lutz_ on February 17, 2008, 08:12 PM
Have you looked at  "IndexYourFiles"  already. Donationware from
http://www.indexyourfiles.com/
indexes also removable media and provides previews of the most prevalent file formats.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on February 18, 2008, 01:20 PM
No, I didn't. Locate indexes everything I have and is great to use with the keyboard. I don't miss anything and since time is an issue I'm not actively looking for alternatives.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on February 19, 2008, 03:23 AM
You can't even compare the two coz IIRC Locate doesn't index content.

My wishlist for Locate (which IMO, would make it the best file search tool on the planet):
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on February 19, 2008, 03:33 AM
"Realtime indexing" would require locate32 (or a service for it) to be always running... it would be an okay optional feature, but I'd hate it if the program became dependent on it.

Thumbnails ho humm, as long as it can be turned off. For me, a very nice feature of locate32 is that it can run completely from it's index-database, without accessing files on disk (thus possibly spinning up harddrives, and definitely slowing down a bit compared to not accessing files).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on February 19, 2008, 03:45 AM
For me, a very nice feature of locate32 is that it can run completely from it's index-database, without accessing files on disk (thus possibly spinning up harddrives, and definitely slowing down a bit compared to not accessing files).

Doesn't it already do this? As in, when you search, doesn't it access just the database? 
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on February 19, 2008, 03:57 AM
For me, a very nice feature of locate32 is that it can run completely from it's index-database, without accessing files on disk (thus possibly spinning up harddrives, and definitely slowing down a bit compared to not accessing files).
Doesn't it already do this? As in, when you search, doesn't it access just the database? 
Depends on your settings - if you want to track whether files have been deleted since database creation (the default, iirc) it needs to access files on disk. Same goes for icon extraction...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Armando on February 19, 2008, 10:05 AM
You can't even compare the two coz IIRC Locate doesn't index content.

My wishlist for Locate (which IMO, would make it the best file search tool on the planet):
  • Realtime indexing - very low on resource consumption, better (perfect) results, no CPU spikes as with scheduled indexing.
  • Thumbnail mode for graphic files (would give it an outright advantage over other FS tools that do realtime indexing, none that I know of have this implemented)
  • Panes for listing recently added/changed & recently launched files (like with Ava Find)
  • Popup window showing files being added/modified (like in Filetracer)

Nice list nosh. That would indeed be cool. (as options, of course)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on February 19, 2008, 12:01 PM
  • Realtime indexing - very low on resource consumption, better (perfect) results, no CPU spikes as with scheduled indexing.
  • Thumbnail mode for graphic files (would give it an outright advantage over other FS tools that do realtime indexing, none that I know of have this implemented)
  • Panes for listing recently added/changed & recently launched files (like with Ava Find)
  • Popup window showing files being added/modified (like in Filetracer)

Realtime indexing and thumbnails have been in the todo list for while (actually I'm working with the latter right now, I hope that I can handle that).

To show recently added/changed files would require that live indexing, or at least somehow to figure out what have been changed (comparing old and new database or something like that). I think that this could wait that live indexing. A panel for recently launche files, hmm, I could considerthis. Maybe popup window for that list?

btw. this is not the best place to make suggestions.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on February 19, 2008, 02:46 PM
btw. this is not the best place to make suggestions.

Sorry, I'm lazy!  :-[

Maybe popup window for that list?
Yes, a popup window. Do take a look at FileTracer which does this. Ava Find shows the changed files & recently launched files panes.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kartal on March 16, 2008, 12:54 AM
I wish it had nice preview window for most file types :(
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: vixay on March 27, 2008, 05:50 AM
see this post https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=4849.msg86938#msg86938

Is locate better than XYplorer or not? What is the difference in their implementations? This is intriguing. If it turns out that a file manager indexes files as well, then it might be easier to use that one combined utility!...

hmm... it'd be great if dopus had locate built into it! as it is it's search is superfast, but it takes a while for the first search to complete each time you open it...
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on March 27, 2008, 06:12 AM
hmm... it'd be great if dopus had locate built into it! as it is it's search is superfast, but it takes a while for the first search to complete each time you open it...
Then don't close it!  8)

Seriously, always let one Locate process run, schedule automatic updating of its database(s) and you can always rely on blazing fast, accurate search results.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kartal on April 03, 2008, 03:04 PM
new beta supports thumbnails as well
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on April 04, 2008, 09:53 AM
see this post https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=4849.msg86938#msg86938

Is locate better than XYplorer or not? What is the difference in their implementations? This is intriguing. If it turns out that a file manager indexes files as well, then it might be easier to use that one combined utility!...

Theyr'e different...  Locae32 is indexed, XYplorer has very good non-indexed search.  So does Total Commander, but someone still wrote a plug-in to use Locate32 inside TC, presenting results in a TC pane.



Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: SirSmiley on April 04, 2008, 11:00 AM
new beta supports thumbnails as well

Thanks for the update. :Thmbsup:

I keep trying Copernic, Google Desktop, and Windows Search amongst other but, always find myself using this fast little tool.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on April 07, 2008, 06:28 AM
new beta supports thumbnails as well

OMFG! Gotta try it (again) now. I installed the latest Copernic Desktop Search just for this feature yesterday and no matter how much they harp about speed gains I still find it s-l-o-w!

Edit: The program's home page lists a slightly old beta (it didn't have the thumbnails feature).
Here's the link to the Locate32 Beta Page (http://locate32.net/files/betas/)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Darwin on April 07, 2008, 06:46 AM
new beta supports thumbnails as well

OMFG! Gotta try it (again) now. I installed the latest Copernic Desktop Search just for this feature yesterday and no matter how much they harp about speed gains I still find it s-l-o-w!

You should give Archivarius a shot if you are interested in searching file content as well... I use the two together - awesome combination!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on April 07, 2008, 07:08 AM
I don't really need content search but I'd be lying if I said I haven't been curious about Archivarius for a while. I'll give it a shot. Thanks Darwin!  :up:

OK, couple of quick questions.
Does Archivarius have a thumbnail view for images?
Why do you use both? Or more specifically, what does Archivarius lack that Locate32 makes up for?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on April 07, 2008, 09:55 AM
Edit: The program's home page lists a slightly old beta (it didn't have the thumbnails feature).
Here's the link to the Locate32 Beta Page (http://locate32.net/files/betas/)

3.1.8.3260 has thumbnails, there is a message for that in the main page. The downloads page lists only all exe packages (with installers, no beta) and links to locations where other versions can be found.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: nosh on April 07, 2008, 10:32 AM
3.1.8.3220 is the last beta linked from the main page, which I'm assuming is http://locate32.net

The only reference to .3260 is regarding translations. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on April 07, 2008, 10:40 AM
Try the beta download page at http://locate32.net/files/betas/
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: jmj on April 07, 2008, 10:10 PM
3.1.8.3220 is the last beta linked from the main page, which I'm assuming is http://locate32.net

Ups  :-[, it seems that I have forgotten to add a message for 8.3260. It's there now.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: J-Mac on April 08, 2008, 10:59 PM
After reading much praise of this application for a long time here at DC, I finally had the time and nothing in particular else to do yesterday afternoon  (before some other storm hit the fan!), so I downloaded and installed Locate32.  Beta version.  And of course since I had never installed a "stable" version, which includes the Windows installer, I had to figure out where to put which file and what to run to get the DB in place, etc., etc.  (What an idiot I am! Figured it out and ran the installer with the released version on my notebook after this and it was much easier!).

Anyway, I haven't had a chance yet to run through any serious searches - what I lovingly call my "PANIC searches"!! - what I have done so far was pretty darn impressive based on both speed and on the items it did find.  For example I searched using the first five characters for a file that I know is buried pretty deep and that there is only one possible result for those characters, and it had the result before I even finished typing!  Of course I type extremely fast; about 15 to 20 words per minute!!  If I look at the keys the whole time.... But Locate32 had the filename sitting there in the results box by the time I looked up from the keys.  Very quick.  I also tried searching for a filename that I knew positively was repeated exactly 10 times on my PC.  Of course it found about triple that - pre-fetch and the like.  But all results were that filename I knew about and references/links to that same filename elsewhere.

So at first blush, Locate32 is impressing the heck out of me!!

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kronhead on October 30, 2008, 10:39 AM
I have a question about searching the CONTENT of PDF files. I tried Locate32, and it finds some content but not others. I guess you really need something that understands PDF content? I have been using Copernic, and it finds things that Locate32 does not find. And when I open the PDF with a text editor, it does not find the content either ... But I can select the text in a PDF viewer. So it is definitely text, not image.

I started looking for something else when Copernic moved network drive support to its paid product. Locate32 looks great - but I do occasionally need to find content in PDF files.

Any suggestions?
Dan
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: tinjaw on October 30, 2008, 10:44 AM
Locate is designed to serve the same purpose on Windows that GNU locate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_locate) does on *nix boxes. It only indexes file metadata, not the contents of files.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on October 30, 2008, 10:44 AM
kronhead, PDF files are... special.

For one, they can be compressed - that means anything not parsing the PDF files but treating as raw text (or binary) won't find the text. Some PDFs are in graphical format even if they don't contain anything but text... and they can also, iirc, contain PostScript (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript) code. So you definitely do need a searcher/indexer capable of parsing for decent results.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kronhead on October 30, 2008, 11:26 AM
Locate is designed to serve the same purpose on Windows that GNU locate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_locate) does on *nix boxes. It only indexes file metadata, not the contents of files.

I know it does not index the contents, but you can search for files containing specific text, on the advanced screen - that's what I was using.

Dan
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on October 30, 2008, 11:30 AM
Locate is designed to serve the same purpose on Windows that GNU locate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_locate) does on *nix boxes. It only indexes file metadata, not the contents of files.
I know it does not index the contents, but you can search for files containing specific text, on the advanced screen - that's what I was using.
Yup, and that doesn't do "content-aware" search, it searches raw contents.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kronhead on October 30, 2008, 04:05 PM
Yup, and that doesn't do "content-aware" search, it searches raw contents.

And no wanting to beat a dead horse - altho I have probably already done that - I thought that a PDF file where you could SELECT the text (ie, not an image) would contain the text as text - with other stuff around it - so a phrase search might not work - but I thought a simple text search would. But ya' learn something new each day ...

I think I will use locate for a while, and see how often I really need content searching. The best example I have is: I keep my receipts for online purchases as PDF files, and I occasionally ask myself "where did I buy that last laptop battery?" or "I got a unknown credit card charge for $19.95 - did I buy something?" The first question I can normally answer from the file name - the second is a little harder - I hate web sites where the credit card charge is for a name you never saw before - they just mentioned it in passing.

Dan
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Darwin on October 30, 2008, 04:51 PM
And no wanting to beat a dead horse - altho I have probably already done that - I thought that a PDF file where you could SELECT the text (ie, not an image) would contain the text as text - with other stuff around it - so a phrase search might not work - but I thought a simple text search would. But ya' learn something new each day ...

Well, yes BUT Locate doesn't index file contents but rather file names.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: fenixproductions on October 30, 2008, 05:42 PM
2Darwin
You are right but that is why I still naive waiting for TC plugins support in Locate32 (it is on its ToDo list).
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on October 31, 2008, 12:15 PM
waiting for TC plugins support in Locate32 (it is on its ToDo list).
-fenixproductions (October 30, 2008, 05:42 PM)

Have you tried FSE?  I don't have a URL, but it's in the TC forums.

Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: fenixproductions on October 31, 2008, 03:06 PM
2rjbull
Have you tried FSE?  I don't have a URL, but it's in the TC forums.

Yes, I did on the first day plugin had been released. In the matter of fact: I've tried all 500 TC's plugins.

FSE is just a front-end to Locate32. It is much easier just to use Win+F and have dirs opened in TC. FSE limits come from L32 and that is why I gave L's author the idea of building proper plugs interface in the first place. Watching from player's* point of view I don't think it should be so hard to do so... I am just waiting.

*) player - I wrote few WDX plugins (in C++) and couple of simple C# tools for handling them (like beta version of Comparer (http://fenixproductions.republika.pl/tc/Comparer.rar) - no time to finish). That's the way of the freak ;)
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: TGB72 on May 05, 2009, 09:48 PM
Well with all the respect I thing there is no program on earth that can beat Everything 1.2 (http://www.voidtools.com/) in terms of speed for indexing and search through large amount of data. I talking about less than a minute to index 500GB with 360000 files and a fraction of a sec to search ANY file. Check the author's site for more info.

Otherwise I found Visual CD (http://www.boozet.org/visualcd.htm) far better than locate for indexing CDs, DVD and other removable media.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kronhead on May 05, 2009, 10:47 PM
Well with all the respect I thing there is no program on earth that can beat Everything 1.2 (http://www.voidtools.com/) in terms of speed for indexing and search through large amount of data. I talking about less than a minute to index 500GB with 360000 files and a fraction of a sec to search ANY file. Check the author's site for more info.

Otherwise I found Visual CD (http://www.boozet.org/visualcd.htm) far better than locate for indexing CDs, DVD and other removable media.

Looks interesting, but no indexing of network volumes - unless you can run a server function on the remote system. But I am using Jungledisk to store data on Amazon's S3 cloud servers, and I want to index those files as well. Locate works on them.

Actually, the reason I came to locate in the first place, was becuase I used Copernic, and they dropped support for network drives in their free version. "Everything" might work for my home computers, but not for cloud files. I do miss indexing file contents - and I cannot index email with *anything* since I started using IMAP and left the mail on the servers ... Oh, well.

Dan
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: J-Mac on May 05, 2009, 11:01 PM
Well with all the respect I thing there is no program on earth that can beat Everything 1.2 (http://www.voidtools.com/) in terms of speed for indexing and search through large amount of data. I talking about less than a minute to index 500GB with 360000 files and a fraction of a sec to search ANY file. Check the author's site for more info.

Otherwise I found Visual CD (http://www.boozet.org/visualcd.htm) far better than locate for indexing CDs, DVD and other removable media.

Looks interesting, but no indexing of network volumes - unless you can run a server function on the remote system. But I am using Jungledisk to store data on Amazon's S3 cloud servers, and I want to index those files as well. Locate works on them.

Actually, the reason I came to locate in the first place, was becuase I used Copernic, and they dropped support for network drives in their free version. "Everything" might work for my home computers, but not for cloud files. I do miss indexing file contents - and I cannot index email with *anything* since I started using IMAP and left the mail on the servers ... Oh, well.

Dan

Dan,

Try IMAPSize (http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/index.php) for your IMAP mail accounts. It will backup all of your IMAP messages locally and it also has a really good search facility for those backed up messages.

Jim
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: kronhead on May 06, 2009, 12:27 AM

Dan,

Try IMAPSize (http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/index.php) for your IMAP mail accounts. It will backup all of your IMAP messages locally and it also has a really good search facility for those backed up messages.

Jim

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Dan
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: brotherS on May 06, 2009, 03:04 AM
Well with all the respect I thing there is no program on earth that can beat Everything 1.2 (http://www.voidtools.com/) in terms of speed for indexing and search through large amount of data.
That may be, but the UI looks a bit (too) simple to me. I don't want to spend the time to test it, but from looking at the screenshot and checking the FAQ, it doesn't seem to have presets (which I love about Locate). And is it usable with the keyboard only?
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 06, 2009, 04:35 AM
I have moved from Locate32 to Everything and find the latter much quicker to use everyday. It indexes incredibly quickly (without permanently storing large index files), it now detects removable drives on the fly (both insertion and removal) and it finds files as you type the name so you rarely have to type anything complete. I also love the simplicity of refining a search by adding deparate extra bits (an extension, a drive letter etc).

Give it a try (it is a tiny download) - it will be on your desktop and working within a minute (including downloading it)!
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: TurboJosh on October 06, 2010, 02:53 PM
Wow, I just found this recommendation to try "Everything 1.2" and it is UNBELIEVABLE!!  I would have killed to learn about this software 10 years sooner!  It's one of the best pieces of software I have ever seen.  So good, why doesn't Windows come with this built in?  Windows built in Indexing Service is a laughable useless farce compared to Everything!

"Everything" builds a full index within 1 second!  It relies upon the NTFS USN Journal so it only works on NTFS drives.

I tried Google Desktop but couldn't get it to build an index right away and found it's "127.0.0.1" Http server program interface to be overly complicated and bloated.

Everything is just a dream come true.  EXTREMELY, BLISTERING fast, and outrageously small, lean and efficient.

Thank you VERY much to whoever recommended it.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: f0dder on October 07, 2010, 02:06 PM
Windows come with this built in?  Windows built in Indexing Service is a laughable useless farce compared to Everything!
You can't really compare the two, since Everything only searches based on filenames. It's good for what it does, though. I personally don't like it has to run with admin privs, but without separating to a LUA GUI app and a admin service, that's just how it has to be.

Afaik it reads the MFT and not the USN Journal, btw - but the two are closely related.
Title: Re: Locate 3.0 - great *FAST* HD search tool!
Post by: rjbull on October 07, 2010, 03:15 PM
I personally don't like it has to run with admin privs, but without separating to a LUA GUI app and a admin service, that's just how it has to be.

I bought a license for PC Magazine's RAAC = Run As Admin Controller (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364113,00.asp), which makes running an admin app from a user account more comfortable.  But, that's only really a solution on your own PC.  Otherwise, perfectly competent file finders abound, but none are as fast as Everything.