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mackal:
Hi all, I am really starting to get excited about the power of FARR as I slowly discover the new things in 2.0... but occasionally I'm having a hard time understanding what FARR is thinking/doing.  Here is one example in particular, perhaps someone can explain to me what is happening:


* I hit Ctrl-Space, and FARR comes up
* I type "tor"; the first entry is the "torrent" alias group in Core_Aliases\Core-Search.alias file
* I hit Tab or Alt-1, at which point the alias is autocompleted to "torrent" and only the aliases in the group now appear in the result window
* now when I type the next word, the additional text is used to filter the alias group to only those entries that match the typed text; makes sense
* once I narrowed down the list of torrent search engines so that the one I want is the only one (or at least at top of list), if I hit space and add another word (presumably the search words), the result list goes empty and hitting Enter does nothing
???

Now, I understand on the lowest level that the problem is that the additional words in the last point are being treated as additional filtering to the list of aliases in the group.  But, how do I enter an argument for $$1 in that case?  Is FARR not supposed to be used in this fashion? (i.e., autocompletion with alias groups)

Of course the workaround is to not hit Tab/autocomplete the alias, but simply use something like "tor my search words" and then use Alt-<number> to fire up the desired search engine.  But the outlined approach above should also work, no?

On a related note, is there way to fire *all* the search engines?  According to help, hitting Ctrl-Enter should execute all the search results, but this only fires up the top-most torrent search for me... I've never actually gotten Ctrl-Enter to work (but haven't really tried it with executables).

Any help on any of the above points would be most welcome.

mouser:
I can help a bit.

The torrent vs. tor issue is actually behaving as it should but it's problematic.
The problem is this:
The name of the alias is "torrent" but the regular expression keys on "tor (.*)"
SO, when you type the full word torrent it shows all results in that alias BUT it doesnt know how to regular expression extract.
So it really wants you to type: "tor searchwords"

Now a more subtle problem is that if you use regular expression you can't filter out certain searches.

I think there are two solutions needed in the ideal case.

The first one is easy and that is to make the regular expression for this group match on "tor[rent] (.*)" (whatever the regex for that is) -- that would solve the main problem.

I was also thinking that to enable filtering on regular expressions, we could add a special character that would filter and NOT get matched against regular expressions.  So for example you could type:
"tor searchword *FILTER WORDS"

and it would match as if you typed "tor searchword", and THEN do a filter on results using everything after the *.

mouser:
To launch all results i think it's now Ctrl+Alt+Enter (not just Ctrl+Enter).. i forget why.

mackal:
To launch all results i think it's now Ctrl+Alt+Enter (not just Ctrl+Enter).. i forget why.
-mouser (August 23, 2007, 03:06 PM)
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Yes, that was it, thanks.  It would be helpful to amend the help file then, where it still has the old binding.  It's under Advanced Use > Hotkey and Shortcut Summary.

Muahahahaha! >:D  I feel like an evil overlord of the universe with all that power at my fingertips now...  :D

mouser:
It would be helpful to amend the help file then, where it still has the old binding.  It's under Advanced Use > Hotkey and Shortcut Summary.
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Thanks, it will be fixed in the new update.

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