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wreckedcarzz:
OK, here I have a touchy subject that I need feedback on.

What I want to do is be able to bundle CCleaner, CleanUp, and everything else INTO SnapSuite, so that the user doesn't have to install them all manually.

Now, the problem is that I want to confirm I can do this without legal crap going on. I have read all the program EULAs (JkDefrag/NTREGOPT does not have one) and everything looks fine, but quite frankly, I want to make sure I don't screw myself here.

Here is the rundown:

CCleaner states that, basically, I can make and distribute copies of it as long as I include the EULA (not a problem)
By using or distributing this software (or any work based on the software) you shall be deemed to have accepted the terms and conditions set out below.
[...]
Piriform grants you a limited non-exclusive licence to use this software for any purpose, including commercial applications and redistribute it freely, subject to the following restrictions:

1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not claim that you wrote the original software.
2. You must not alter the software, user licence or installer in any way.
3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any distribution.
4. You may not resell or charge for the software.
5. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, derive the source code of or modify [or create derivative work from] the program.
6. You must not use CCleaner to engage in or allow others to engage in any illegal activity.
7. You may not claim any sponsorship by, endorsement by, or affiliation with our company.
8. You acknowledge that Piriform owns the copyright and all associated intellectual property rights relating to the software except to the extent that the software includes identifiable separate components originating from the Yahoo! Toolbar.

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CleanUp! states no restrictions on distribution, as long as I don't make it "my own" or edit it
* You may not alter this software in any way, including changing
   help and text files.
[...]
 * You are hereby licensed to make any number of backup copies of
   this free software and documentation. You can give the copy of
   the software to anyone or distribute the freeware version of the
   software providing that no additional fee is charged and the
   package files are not modified in any way.

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WindowsCare says that you cannot distribute it, however this is ignored via paragraph 4 where it clarifies that, while not saying it in these words, basically it only applies to the Professional edition whereas a license is given.
Particularly, it is prohibited to make copies thereof (with the exception of making copies to be used as a backup).
[...]
4. Assignment Restriction. This license is provided personally to you and for that reason it does not allow you to make any duplicate (copy) to be sold, borrowed, assigned, leased or transferred in any manner whatsoever to another person. Any transfer executed in violation of this provision shall be deemed invalid and constitute a reason for termination of your license validity.

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JkDefrag is covered under the GNU general public licence, and carries no EULA. I have been distributing this for a while now.
None

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NTREGOPT has no EULA or license agreement of any type.
None

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IMO, I think I am safe. But I would like some stable confirmation before continuing on. Anyone?

-Brandon

mouser:
I'm not much use with legal advice so i'll leave that to others.
But from the ethical/morality standpoint, make sure you very clearly give the authors of these programs credit and provide easy access to their websites, etc.  That will go a long way to making the authors happy.

Curt:
So, if I have WindowsCare Pro I cannot use your upcoming program?  :-\

jazper:
I don't think asking other people for there interpretation of the EULA is the right way to go about it. The only safe method is to write the authors of each of those programs explaining to them what you are doing, how you are interpreting the EULA and see what they have to say. Make sure they explicity give you authorization.



wreckedcarzz:
I'm not much use with legal advice so i'll leave that to others.
But from the ethical/morality standpoint, make sure you very clearly give the authors of these programs credit and provide easy access to their websites, etc.  That will go a long way to making the authors happy.
-mouser (February 17, 2008, 02:10 AM)
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OK, I was going to do that but I will make sure it is 100% clear what is doing what and who made the program that does that.

So, if I have WindowsCare Pro I cannot use your upcoming program?  :-\
-Curt (February 17, 2008, 04:56 AM)
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No, far from the truth! :o This is just my way of integrating everything so that everyone doesn't have to install all the programs themselves! That way everything is ready to go just when SnapSuite installs.

I don't think asking other people for there interpretation of the EULA is the right way to go about it. The only safe method is to write the authors of each of those programs explaining to them what you are doing, how you are interpreting the EULA and see what they have to say. Make sure they explicity give you authorization.
-jazper (February 17, 2008, 10:16 AM)
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OK, I might send off some emails today then.

Thanks everyone!

-Brandon

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