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iphigenie:
It just occured to me, when did content management become synonym with blogging - most of the CMSes out there are not website content management tools but blogging/news management tools, i.e. they expect you to have chronological small articles with some keywords rather than any other organisation (like sections with information pages, products, faq, jobs etc.).

To me chronological keyworded content is just one option and one module in a CMS, and not the main one.

There really need to be a separation between
* website content management
* portal management
* blog management

a portal if often a bit of both

I think what tranglos needs is a full website management rather than wordpress or other blogging systems.

dk70:
You never get the perfect one so must cut down on requirements here or there. Really complicated to only pick based on what others say and quick trial runs. What brought me to Xampp. Sometimes you get a now-I-get-it experience from fooling around :) Have to invest some time.

Also notice the way people react when they have found a favorite pet. Not only recommendable but superb. Even the worst crap is lovely! Im thinking of comments at Opensourcecms, some obviously spam but I think I can smell that some have spend tons of time and finally beaten X - and NOW it is the best! Ruling Joomla ADM section might give the sensation... So be careful about recommendations. Didnt I just say it was easy to hack Serendipity into whatever? True, but I also have 55 forum threads bookmarked, heh. Really it is easy but may be not obvious - definitely requries some time.

Website Baker thinks of end-user that is true. The site Im messing around with in Xampp is for my brothers business and Im still wondering if I should not change to Baker instead of S9Y coolness of hacking. He is the one who eventually will use it not me, hmm. Lots of themes available for Baker too, easy to "fix" visuals. One problem Ive noticed is any more than a basic site really needs a "menu2" plugin or you are stuck with 1 menu block only. Not much swift modification possible, default goal is the simple site consisting of limited static content I guess, but it can be expanded. Ive seen some rather big ones in their showcase forum. If it cant meet requirements out of the box cut and paste post to their forum. Reply might tell a story about support.

Possible a plugin is needed for that cross site updating but you sure that is major problem? Even the little s9y has a content rewrite plugin. Strings {from} {to}, cant be Drupal and others dont have similar. Fire up some plugin maker then.

The really good ones like Drupal you can make into whatever just by clicking around in Administration. I find that easy with Drupal at least, messing around with visuals which often follows change of content not so much - close to not at all ;) I would like to use hot Drupal but when I see people being told to investigate default theme to obtain knowledge on how to do simple changes I run away. Knowledge is above hack level ;) Did you try new version 5? I dont really remember the old. Drupal site is overwhelming like Wordpress but I cant see same direct support from project sized as s9y, Web Site Baker.

Jammo the OrganizedFellow:
    ExpressionEngine Core
   http://www.pmachine.com/ee/pricing/
-tinyvillager (February 17, 2007, 05:57 AM)
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hehe, i was waiting to see when someone would mention my beloved ExpressionEngine.
i am in no way affiliated with pMachine, but i truly love its capability.

it doesnt work like a CMS as most CMS systems do.
i like it most cause it leaves the foundation of BUILDING A WEBSITE entirely up to you. code and design from the ground up. XHTML compliance is up to you. it really is a powerful CMS.


they do have a Pre-Sales Question sub-forum on their corporate site: http://www.pmachine.com/forums/viewforum/29/
i use the Core (free) version for my personal domain. recently purchased my first personal license for a new upcoming site.
http://www.pmachine.com/ee/feature_grid/
http://www.pmachine.com/ee/pricing/

best of luck to you!

tranglos:
it doesnt work like a CMS as most CMS systems do.
i like it most cause it leaves the foundation of BUILDING A WEBSITE entirely up to you. code and design from the ground up. XHTML compliance is up to you.-jammo (February 23, 2007, 11:27 AM)
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EE seems to be another blog/community thing - like anything that gets called a CMS today. It resembles TextPattern somewhat. If what you need is a shop window on the web, the blog/timeline/archive features get in the way. So what's the $249 plus VAT for if I have to do it all myself anyway? :)

If I could design a site to my satisfaction, I would. I could learn some php, there sure is a lot of free code out there to study. One thing I can't do is learn a talent for graphic design. Last time I took two weeks (gulp!) to come up with a color scheme that didn't suck. I don't know the first thing about creating buttons - like the very elegant, simple ones they use at pmachine.com. What's the graphics equivalent of dyslexia? - I don't know, but I have that :)

marek

Jammo the OrganizedFellow:
EE seems to be another blog/community thing - like anything that gets called a CMS today. It resembles TextPattern somewhat.
-tranglos (February 23, 2007, 12:54 PM)
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EE 'seems' the be the opposite of what you 'think' it is amigo.
it allows total freedom to build any type of site you so wish.

example (these are some sites i have bookmarked for inspiration when i get stuck with the idea of 'what do i do next?' with my own EE sites):
http://www.solspace.com/ <~~NOT a blog. used as a content management system.
http://www.31three.com/ <~~NOT a blog. another amazing developer who uses EE exclusively for his clients.
http://www.chrisruzin.net/ <~~IS a blog.
http://www.storiesaboutgod.org/ <~~IS a blog, but more of a community driven site of short stories.
http://inthesetimes.com/ <~~definitely in the category of content management.
http://www.glcc.on.ca/ <~~ school website, content management.


as you can see, the user/developer/owner/admin of the site can make it be whatever it wants it to be. be it a blog, user community, or other.

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