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Interesting: Tag2Find, Tagging for All Filetypes for Windows
J-Mac:
Just curious - any progress on finding a good tagging solution for home PC files? Sounds like Tag2Find is still not quite ready for general usage.-J-Mac (November 01, 2007, 03:22 PM)
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well... It depends what you're expecting. I personally found that it worked quite well. The main reason why I didn't use it is because it didn't integrate with my other desktop search applications (X1, Archivarius, Locate32, farr)-Armando (November 01, 2007, 10:09 PM)
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Grrr.. I'm re-evaluating my desktop search application also - I think we discussed it in another thread. Copernic just isn't finding it all. Actually it is missing a lot. I used X1 for years but about a year and a half ago it started failing like clockwork every few months and required uninstall/reinstall each time, and cleanout of associated registry keys, etc. A desktop search engine shouldn't need so much care and maintenance - or maybe it does and I was getting spoiled! Looking at Archivarius, but the 10,000 file limit on the trial is stopping me from making the purchase - I want to see it work and that limit won't let me. I wish the developer would take that into consideration and free up the trial - just put a hard expiration in it.
But only if it is consistent and doesn't change too much of the existing file structure.
-J-Mac (November 01, 2007, 03:22 PM)
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What do you mean?
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I used Taglocity for a while with my Outlook email (I was using Outlook at the time) and it was still "growing up" at that time - but it left permanent changes in my PST even when I uninstalled it - oh the problems that befall those who spend their lives installing and uninstalling software! I wasn't sure whether or not Tag2Find made any hard-to-undo changes to the file structure like that.
BTW, I still cannot find any such feature in DOpus. I had hoped that DOpus would have something to make tracking/grouping files easier, but it seems that I just have Windows Explorer with some added bells on it. Not quite as big a deal as I had first thought.-J-Mac (November 01, 2007, 03:22 PM)
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DO aficionados would probably want to torture you for saying that. ;D
IMO DO is much much more than explorer with some added bells... Maybe it just doesn't have what you're looking for.
Of course I may not be using it to its fullest extent, but so far I have not gotten any good answers for doing a lot of the things I had thought DOpus would help with.
-J-Mac (November 01, 2007, 03:22 PM)
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You could always use what they call "file collections" (basically virtual folders). Although when I trialed DO, I didn't find them reliable for my own everyday usage : my filenames change all the time, and the file collections didn't seem to deal well with frequent name changes. There are other solutions in Total Commander and Speed Commander. Didn't test them though.
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You know, even while typing that I kinda realized that comment would probably rub many the wrong way, but, hey - I was really tired and didn't take the time to sanitize the post. (Sorry to all DOpus diehard fans!) In reality, DOpus DOES offer much more than that. But as I mentioned, some of the customizations - actually a lot of them - are not easily accomplished, unless one is a true technophile - and I'm only part technophile! Some changes required a little more registry tweaking and other code changes that I wasn't quite ready to attack myself.
Armando - any luck so far finding a good, solid tagging application for Windows?
-J-Mac (November 01, 2007, 03:22 PM)
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Nope. I think tag2find is what comes closest to what I'm looking for. But I'm waiting for the 2nd generation and a number of modification before committing any data to it. In the mean time, I'm using my own system and I've become used to it... I almost like it now How do you tag (or even organize) your files?. But takes some discipline.
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Well, seeing as I am not faring too well with my own desktop search applications here, it might be worth a look.
Thanks Armando! I appreciate the time and effort taken to reply to me.
Jim
Armando:
but the 10,000 file limit on the trial is stopping me from making the purchase
-J-Mac (November 02, 2007, 02:41 AM)
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Ask the developer : I'm sure he'll agree to send you a limitless version for testing purpose. He's nice. But, as Darwin said elsewhere, it can take a while before you get a response (it seems like he's alone...).
My feeling is that if you’re looking for something efficient — although a bit slow and incomplete for outlook PST files — you can’t really go wrong with Archivarius. In terms of precision, it’s really the best Desktop Search app I own. I do miss some of X1’s feature, and this is why I still use X1 for certain things. Since Archivarius has such a small footprint, I leave it open with X1, and update its index twice a day. It can take a bit of time to get familiar with its features and configuration, but once you get it, you realize how reliable it is.
I wasn't sure whether or not Tag2Find made any hard-to-undo changes to the file structure like that.
-J-Mac (November 02, 2007, 02:41 AM)
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It might make some invisible changes to the NTFS alternate data streams. I do believe tag2find can erase any changes it applies to files.
But if you're worried -- and I understand why you’d be -- just ask the developers on their forum. They're very friendly and answer each and every question! I'd actually be interrested in the response they'll give you.
Thanks Armando! I appreciate the time and effort taken to reply to me.
-J-Mac (November 02, 2007, 02:41 AM)
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You're very welcome. :)
Grorgy:
And its worth noting that while I use and like Archivarius, it isnt without its indexing problems. I knew i had a file but archivarius wasnt finding it. I eventually found it through just looking everywhere, fortunately it wasnt far away from the place it should have been, so then i double checked my search criteria, tried other words, and then i rebuilt the index, and it found it. I have less than 10000 items in that index at this time so size shouldnt be a problem lol.
Anyway just thought i'd let you know that it to has its little quirks. Ahh for a perfect system, and one that would make the coffee to, 8)
Armando:
And its worth noting that while I use and like Archivarius, it isnt without its indexing problems. I knew i had a file but archivarius wasnt finding it. I eventually found it through just looking everywhere, fortunately it wasnt far away from the place it should have been, so then i double checked my search criteria, tried other words, and then i rebuilt the index, and it found it. I have less than 10000 items in that index at this time so size shouldnt be a problem lol.
Anyway just thought i'd let you know that it to has its little quirks. Ahh for a perfect system, and one that would make the coffee to, 8)
-Grorgy (November 02, 2007, 04:35 AM)
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Interesting.
I one wants archivarius to be reliable, the index has to be updated properly each time, all pertinent extensions included, etc. Many things to check.
And because I still can't trust 100% any of these desktop search... I use two to double check! :)
kartal:
Is this application under developement at all?
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