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I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

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rjbull:
I just stumbled across this:

Info-Base - Personal Informations Manager / Freeform Database

http://freeware.persoft.ch/program_en.htm

9.7 - 14.06.2020
5.0 MB    

a "clone" (with new options) of the good and old "Info-Select" (Version 1.0) ...

    supports Unicode, external and internal links.
    very fast (also with very large amount of data) and effectively for any kind of data ...
    no complex formatting, only TAB and CR/LF.
    the rules are limited to the bare minimum and they can be adjusted arbitrarily.
    the idea is that of a "note spear" (stack) on the desk.
    new notes are easily and quickly placed on top of the appropriate stack.
    free customizable templates for different data.
    clip import from other programs (f.e. browser, e-mail client).
    extremely fast full-text search in each stack (local F4) or in all stacks (global F3).
    combined filter (with logical and), bookmarks, alarm by date (tickler).
    all databases can be edited with any unicode-text-editor.
    unlimited (only disc space) number of notes / stacks.
    the ideal "Zettelkasten" ...

Data from Info-Select can be imported. (IS 1.0 for each stack: "Group", "Export to file" or in newer Versions: export as "Note Delimited", may change (temp.) in InfoBase the "file delimiter" !)
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My emphasis.  I doubt it would fit the dizzyingly complex requirements of DC's 'zettelkasteners', though  :)

Warning - I haven't tried this, and MBAM blocks the site as a Trojan.  It's done that so frequently of late that I'm beginning to ignore it  :(

Dormouse:
Warning - I haven't tried this, and MBAM blocks the site as a Trojan. 
-rjbull (June 16, 2020, 04:29 PM)
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I wondered whether Info Select needed cloning,  and then noticed the .ch.
After your MBAM warning,  I decided not to visit the site.

superboyac:
Wow, thread still going strong...

OK, well I'm back to continue with this experiment.  Nearly lost my job due to Covid, but I got a new client and am ok for a little bit.

I still haven't been able to stick to this method, and I still want to try as I am very envious of the output productivity I am expecting.  Here are my personal updates.  I will go back through this thread to see what has developed with you guys also.

I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
I like this visual, it is helpful.
Going off that, this is how I see things going for me:

Inbox, somewhere to dump all incoming things.  I definitely will use a folder for an inbox.

Archive, once a thought/nugget is carefully processed and whittled down, it goes permanently here.  This is the actual zettel, so I will also have this: a container where all the final stuff go into.

Reference database, I don't think I need this.  This part is handled better with all my other software, like the ones that can search, and just have all the media organized somewhere else.  I think I’ll avoid this.  I use so many things to store/index files, search files, etc.  So I don't want or need to bring in massive volumes of stuff.  That will be done with more powerful software, and several of them at that.  I'll skip this.

Output, this is where I’ll put everything together for the final output.  I may not need this either, or only partially, as I think the final output will also be done using several other software.  I think instead of real output, I may use an output staging area, where i bring in all the archive links.  But from there, I will take it to the other final form software like MS Word, Indesign, Final Draft, etc.  I don't need to do this in the zettel.

That's where I'm at.

Dormouse:
Reference database, I don't think I need this.
-superboyac (June 16, 2020, 07:34 PM)
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Nice to have you back  :)
What you say makes sense,  and it's all about what makes sense for you,  but I'd query this.
The reference database isn't a set of unlinked reference sources - the notes in the zettelkasten should take you to, or include directly, the precise part of the reference material that is relevant. And the process of searching references should lead to more thoughts that go in the mix. If a worthwhile thought is made,  it should be noted. The references themselves aren't really part of the zettelkasten, but there is a set of fixed relationships with it, rather like a label sewn into an item of clothing.

Now,  I'm not advocating you do this,  but it is the zettelkasten system.

I'm still faffing around with techniques and programs, so I'm still nowhere really,  although I feel subjectively that I have got a long way.

wraith808:
I like this visual, it is helpful.
-superboyac (June 16, 2020, 07:34 PM)
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It is!  Thanks for sharing - I can really see the workflow from this image.  My only problem is the same thing that I have with everything- I can collect, but going through the collection is a problem for me.  I need to do the first two steps at the same time.

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