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I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
Dormouse:
Do you know what kind of database tangent uses? Do have any information about if it lags as the data it has grows?
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 03:03 PM)
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Just files and jsons.
I've not seen a problem with lags in general. It's rather like Obsidian in that there's some initial lag while it parses the files in the folder and that it can snarl up on files that are very big or otherwise awkward.
I've stopped using Tangent/Obsidian/markdown editors for notes with images. The links are too vulnerable.
what I like about tangent is it has a number of views
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 03:03 PM)
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I find being able to switch between list and car view very useful. Easier to pick out the note I want as a card than from reading text.
I also like just being able to type.
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 03:03 PM)
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This is the main thing for me. It's nice to work in. Nice to write in. Nice to review notes in. It's productive.
But you should check it has the features you need, or that you have a workaround.
I want a wholistic system I can tweak.
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 03:03 PM)
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And Tangent is open source now, so anything is possible.
sphere:
I think it's probably a wise decision for logseq to move to a database model. I don't think it ever gained much from being files based except a few users from Obsidian. It has problems with speed. My impression is that there has been a trend for users to move away from it, notwithstanding the widespread praise for its PDF handling. Again, you can catch up with complaints etc on its Discord.
oc reading the Discord is time consuming.
-Dormouse (February 21, 2024, 05:10 PM)
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Yeah discord reading is time consuming :D
Out on the internet and youtube obsidian is dominating- i think because it is open to being hacked and offers control. Lots of people have either had a program they use stop working or (more likely) an online service stop working without the tools to get their data out. I have been there. I cannot believe more people do not know about tangent.
I really like the videos I have seen on logseq's pdf handling and there are integrations with zotero.
Dormouse:
I just wish that notezilla allowed the ability to sync using my own choice of cloud services
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 03:03 PM)
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Yeah. I think its main reliable income comes from the sync though.
I would like those postit notes to be accessible outside the postit app
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 03:03 PM)
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I haven't checked out other postit apps in a long time.
I always have NZ running, and I do like the abnility to wirk with the postis in the app/window they're attached to OR in the NZ notes manager.
sphere:
I've stopped using Tangent/Obsidian/markdown editors for notes with images. The links are too vulnerable.
-Dormouse (February 21, 2024, 05:24 PM)
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Vulnerable how? Like you link to the directory with the images in it, and that link breaks? Or they break when trying to sync between different systems (something I have had problems with)?
It just seems like that is something that should have been solved.
Dormouse:
Out on the internet and youtube obsidian is dominating ... I cannot believe more people do not know about tangent.
-sphere (February 21, 2024, 05:34 PM)
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I think Obsidian was the first of the Roamalikes to get any traction. Started with some credibility (from Dynalist), had a techie crowd onboard from the beginning and took off with students - esp Comp Sci students. And it added features at a remarkable pace and then took off when the API came out. It's a program for hackers & players rather than users imho. A potential problem for the future is that students are high turnover and have a voracious appetite for the new.
Tangent came much later (via Taylor's dissatisfaction with Obsidian) and has far fewer features. Not the main focus for the developer who made it for his own daily use, whereas Obsidian quickly became the main full-time focus for its two developers. And no-one has battened on to it as a base for their own YouTube brand (I noticed that Capacities was quick to appoint someone to do that).
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