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f0dder:
Oh, windows defender is enough!
-Mikekolly (April 24, 2017, 02:21 AM)
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Important requirement: On Windows 10 that is, older Windows releases only have a 'less well-developed' MSE version available.
-Ath (April 24, 2017, 03:11 AM)
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Isn't it Win7+?

Ath:
Isn't it Win7+?
-f0dder (April 27, 2017, 03:13 PM)
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Well, the Win 10 version is the one updated with (reasonable) up to date AV technology, not the Win 7/Win8.x version, AFAIK, and the baseline Win 10 OS is far more security-aware than previous releases.

MilesAhead:
One of the professors who teaches the Computer Repair Level 2 class I am fond of taking is very psyched on Avast AV.  You can totally legally create a bootable USB scanner after installing the trial version on a clean computer.  You can download Avast from Ninite

Step by step to create a bootable USB

The professor had an IT company back in the day.  He related that his company was paying some $6,000 odd per year subscription for a corporate wide license of Norton AV.  As the story goes, he kept encountering strange behavior on some of the workstations.  But the Norton scans all came up clean.  He consulted friends with their own IT companies and was told to scrap the Norton and create the bootable Avast thumb drive and scan the strange workstations.  Turns out the Avast detected dozens of malwares on the "clean" workstations and fixed them up.

I am not a big believer in AV period.  But when I do scan I use a free one with a good reputation.  Hmm, why does that remind me of a Dos Equis commercial?  :)

I haven't tried MSE myself but regular posters on several Windows Support Forums swear by it.  I just never got around to checking it out.  It can't be a total piece of crap because the regulars who praise it are no dummies.  If you have a pre W10 system you may want to download MSE.

f0dder:
I haven't tried MSE myself but regular posters on several Windows Support Forums swear by it.  I just never got around to checking it out.  It can't be a total piece of crap because the regulars who praise it are no dummies.  If you have a pre W10 system you may want to download MSE.-MilesAhead (April 27, 2017, 04:12 PM)
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It's not as much of a "MSE is super cool and catches everything" as it's a case of "Pretty much everything else has a high snake-oil factor, and is so hopelessly engineered that it creates more security problems than it fixes".

MilesAhead:
I haven't tried MSE myself but regular posters on several Windows Support Forums swear by it.  I just never got around to checking it out.  It can't be a total piece of crap because the regulars who praise it are no dummies.  If you have a pre W10 system you may want to download MSE.-MilesAhead (April 27, 2017, 04:12 PM)
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It's not as much of a "MSE is super cool and catches everything" as it's a case of "Pretty much everything else has a high snake-oil factor, and is so hopelessly engineered that it creates more security problems than it fixes".
-f0dder (April 27, 2017, 05:27 PM)
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I believe that.  That's why I don't run any Real Time Shield(tm) type stuff.  I used SandBoxie for awhile but it became too small for the job imho.  Plus the author got pissed about some licensed copies he gave away being passed around.  So he set up the new license mechanism so he could kill your license by remote control.  Too much overkill for me.  I stopped updating when it would have meant changing to the new license scheme.

The scare mongering marketing scheme annoys me anyway.  That and the idea that if somebody pays a few hundred bucks for a "certificate" they must be trustworthy.  What a laugh.  Like make sure if you are ripped off it is by somebody who isn't broke.  I fail to see the logic.

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