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British companies to face big fines if data breaches occur

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KynloStephen66515:
But Britain is leaving the EU, right? So they won't need to obey that EU law.
-Deozaan (December 21, 2016, 03:18 PM)
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But UK is leaving the EU, so the UK can still do that, right?
-Deozaan (December 21, 2016, 03:16 PM)
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It will probably be re-submitted once we have left, but we are not expected to have fully left until the end of 2018 (I think) so for now, it's overturned (which can only be a good thing).
-Stephen66515 (December 21, 2016, 03:18 PM)
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wraith808:
Aren't both of these threads (this one and this one) talking about the same thing?  Which is one of the reasons for the confusion of that last post... it would seem good to discuss both in the same thread?

mwb1100:
Aren't both of these threads (this one and this one) talking about the same thing?
-wraith808 (December 21, 2016, 03:35 PM)
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This thread is talking about a regulation that makes companies legally responsible for protecting against breaches (and disclosing them), the other thread is about a ruling that prohibits governments from requiring all emails for all users to be retained for 1 year.

Both of the threads have the common, uh...  thread... that the ruling or regulation is by the EU, so there is the question about whether they will apply to the UK.

IainB:
Note that: (my emphasis)
Europe's highest court said "general and indiscriminate retention of data" by governments is unlawful and cannot be justified within a democratic society. ...
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-Stephen66515 (December 21, 2016, 12:51 PM)
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Slight irony there: The EU can tolerate it, because it is not a democracy (it's a federal state run by unelected "representatives"), but it's telling the UK how to suck eggs anyway.

However, though they may have it right if they are effectively saying that the law is "bad" per se, it would be a non sequitur ("does not follow") to say that it "...cannot be justified within a democratic society", because, well it just has been justified within a democratic society - i.e., the UK parliament passes the laws, and, last time I checked, the UK parliament is a pukka democratically elected body - unlike the EU, which is not.

IainB:
Yes, do try to keep up @wraith808.    ;)

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