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how should I roll back java?
holt:
Install/dnld keeps saying 'entry point not found'.
Curt:
http://www.oldapps.com/antivir.php?old_antivir=16155?download-Download Avira Free Antivirus 15.0.9.504
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it is of course a good thing to remove old java leftovers. Use their own uninstaller:
>>https://java.com/en/download/uninstalltool.jsp]Java Uninstall Tool[/url]<<
Should I uninstall older versions of Java?
We highly recommend that you uninstall all older versions of Java from your system.
Keeping old versions of Java on your system presents a serious security risk.
Uninstalling older versions of Java from your system ensures that Java applications will run with the latest security and performance improvements on your system.
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-Curt (July 27, 2016, 08:33 AM)
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Shades:
Tnx. I'm using an old desktop celeron; works good with 2gb ram.
The Avira link download failed to open; maybe because I'm using Windows XP. I'll try the oldapps version;
http://www.oldapps.com/antivir.php?old_antivir=16155
-holt (September 13, 2016, 04:14 PM)
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Thing is that you shouldn't be lulled into a false sense of security by getting an AV from oldapps.com. New apps aren't necessarily better than old ones, that is true. Anti-virus software is the exception to the rule. Don't expect to get the latest anti-virus signatures for older versions of AV software. Those signature files are the main reason AV software is able to detect viruses.
If that didn't happen yet with your AV software, it will. And when that happens, you essentially are running your computer without AV. Actually it is worse, you lose precious resources on checking files for old and/or obsolete viruses.
Run as much script and ad blockers as you are comfortable with ('ublock origin' and 'umatrix' recommended), get the best/aggressive firewall that still works with XP and use a lot of common sense when surfing. That will help you more in the long run than obsolete AV software ever will. A (real-time) malware scanner would be preferable too. Anti-malware software has the same problem as AV software under XP.
If you can expand your RAM to 4GByte, then Windows 7 will run quite smooth. Even with a Celeron. AV software support for Windows 7 is much better and will be around for quite some time. While Windows 7 will work adequately within 2GByte of RAM, a lack of CPU "horsepower" will make that experience painful.
holt:
nightmare time. purchased Norton antiV from amazon with 'no refund' option. norton says my win xp home 'incompatible' w/o service pack 3. i don't see where to check if i have service pack 3 or how to find and install it.
i have a fully functional win 7 pro 32bit on a good HD in a dead pc desktop. can i just pop it into this older desktop and get it to work?
Shades:
There is no technical reason that prevents you from using your laptop's hard disk in your desktop.
However, it is more than likely that the Windows 7 from your dead laptop is an OEM licensed version. That means MS doesn't allow you to use that Windows 7 license key in your current desktop PC. There are many more restrictions on how you are allowed to use an OEM licensed version of Windows, but I won't bore you with that.
Besides this, the hardware inside the laptop and desktop PC is very different. In general, most Windows installations that are transferred from one PC to another try to install whatever they need to copy with the hardware changes automatically...which usually results in such a mess that you need to re-install from scratch.
Transferring a hard disk with a Windows installation on it between computers with identical hardware (and that includes similar devices being connected at similar PCI (express) lanes) most of the time does work. But it is still something you are not allowed to do with an OEM licensed version of Windows.
Retail versions of Windows are much more expensive than OEM versions, but those are allowed to be installed on any one(!) computer, such as a desktop or laptop.
You can find out which version of Windows you have by opening the Start menu and right-click on the 'My Computer' link inside that menu. A context menu should appear where you can select option 'Properties'. When you do that a window will open where you see the current Windows version (and service pack) near the top of this window.
Looks like you can still download XP Service Pack 3 from FileHippo. Maybe there is still a forgotten corner in the Microsoft website where you can download SP3 for XP still, but by the time you find it there, you will likely have downloaded it from Filehippo in the background.
If you do add the laptop hard disk in your desktop PC, you shouldn't have to worry. According to this Wikipedia page the core NTFS file system didn't change between XP and Windows 7. So you should be to access or write files on that hard disk without problems.
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