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What Killed the Middle Class?
Stoic Joker:
Someone who openly mentions/mentioned 'socialism' winning the US presidency? Pigs will fly before that.
-rgdot (April 01, 2016, 07:37 PM)
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I wonder how many pigs flew before someone black won US presidency? Or will fly before 2017 when someone without a penis will be elected if people don't get over their 'socialism' obsession? Times change.
-eleman (April 02, 2016, 12:15 AM)
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I think the American people were primed -by dissatisfaction - for a grand social experiment back then...and the other options just really sucked.
But when BO took office, he got sat down for the official (one way) Facts-of-Life discussion and told that he was to smile for the cameras, stick his hands in his pockets, and don't touch nothing...because these "nice" folk behind the curtain over there were actually going to be running things.
And somehow, I can't help but think that people know that. Maybe not consciously...maybe not even well enough to articulate ... It's just not looking like a good time for yet another "grand" social experiment.
I've always thought of Trump as the poster child for the opulent level of corporate greed - and distain for the common men - in this country. But if he got into office he is just arrogant and crazy enough to blow the lid off of whatever shadow organization that tries to stifle him.
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Getting closer to the actual topic, I thing the middle class has been systematically destroyed under the insane guise of the "Global Economy". Which has been siphoning off the skilled labor jobs and turning the American people into nothing more that lazy, fat, stupid, cash generating eyeballs groomed for consumption.
Made in America used to really mean (Quality!) something back in the early 20th century. Now...it's damn near flat out irrelevant. Because now we're all to busy sitting in front of Japanese televisions masturbating our sense of adventure because it's too scary to actually have one ... That would require going outside...which is dangerous. At least that's what the nice guy on TV keeps telling us..
eleman:
I think the American people were primed -by dissatisfaction - for a grand social experiment back then...and the other options just really sucked.
-Stoic Joker (April 02, 2016, 08:07 AM)
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Don't call a black president "a grand social experiment". You may be mistaken for a bigot. Or a racist. Or both.
40hz:
Why do I hear the sound of the door to The Basement slowly starting to creak open and Mouser coming down the hall with broom in hand? ;)
Stoic Joker:
I think the American people were primed -by dissatisfaction - for a grand social experiment back then...and the other options just really sucked.
-Stoic Joker (April 02, 2016, 08:07 AM)
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Don't call a black president "a grand social experiment". You may be mistaken for a bigot. Or a racist. Or both.-eleman (April 02, 2016, 10:39 AM)
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That's just hypersensitivity driven fear trying to quell honest and open dialog. Because the first time anyone does anything it is in part, or is completely - by its own nature - experimental. Due to the fact that nobody really knows how it is going to turn out. If the thing in question involves people, it becomes a social experiment ... And if the thing being tried by those people for the first time is a really bid deal, well... Ain't that grand.
It simply is what it is. and if one equivocates on admitting the risks involved in a venture...they are also subsequently eroding away at the level of success it can therefore claim to have attained ... And frankly, I think that's rather sad.
eleman:
I think the American people were primed -by dissatisfaction - for a grand social experiment back then...and the other options just really sucked.
-Stoic Joker (April 02, 2016, 08:07 AM)
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Don't call a black president "a grand social experiment". You may be mistaken for a bigot. Or a racist. Or both.-eleman (April 02, 2016, 10:39 AM)
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That's just hypersensitivity driven fear trying to quell honest and open dialog. Because the first time anyone does anything it is in part, or is completely - by its own nature - experimental. Due to the fact that nobody really knows how it is going to turn out. If the thing in question involves people, it becomes a social experiment ... And if the thing being tried by those people for the first time is a really bid deal, well... Ain't that grand.
It simply is what it is. and if one equivocates on admitting the risks involved in a venture...they are also subsequently eroding away at the level of success it can therefore claim to have attained ... And frankly, I think that's rather sad.
-Stoic Joker (April 02, 2016, 11:33 AM)
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Venture? Electing someone with a different skin color is a venture? How is that even a variable involved in the analysis? How is that a new thing? BO is the 44th president of the US. Not the first one.
If Donald Trump gets elected, will he also be an experiment, on the grounds that he is the first one named "Donald"? How about Hillary? Will she be an experiment on the grounds that she will be the first one with ovaries? What about Ted Cruz? The first president to be born in Calgary? Grandiose experiment... really.
These are irrelevant. You can't call the ordeal an experiment on these grounds. An experiment is a process aiming to assess the impact of an independent variable on a dependent variable, with reference to an existing hypothesis. I really would like to assume you did not hypothesize a black president would behave different than FDR or Ronald the Cowboy just because of his skin color.
The true way to overcome the evil of class distinctions is not to denounce them as revolutionists denounce them, but to ignore them as children ignore them. [Charles Dickens]
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