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x16wda:
Surfulater also appeared to cost about $79US. I like supporting software authors, and I'm prone to buying licenses to neat things that I don't need, but at that level it would need to do something that really makes my life easier or more enjoyable.

IainB:
Ah, what a pity. I was keenly waiting to see what readers gave as feedback to flamory. "The proof is in the pudding", as they say, so I was preparing to trial it, but from the above it certainly doesn't look too hopeful, and I think at this stage I will not bother to trial it. Mandatory requirements for me include privacy/confidentiality, so what @JavaJones refers to is, for me, a showstopper.

These are some of the better potential alternatives, as I see things so far:

* Scrapbook ($Free): (as used in the original academic research tool and Firefox extension from xuldev.org, or forks/versions of same) excellent; uses a purpose-built public domain engine to provide a faithful local (client) copy of the web page in a non-proprietary format (so is shareable) and also copies any related files embedded in the webpage (if you specify which file types you want, for all webpages, or dynamically for any given webpage), and can copy nested pages to several levels deep (level captures can also be set dynamically); allows annotation, highlighting and partial copying; allows sorting/filtering of the library. Limitations include: only works for Firefox; a slow folder management pane and a painfully slow indexing interface when you have a large library (as I do) - though it meets most of my requirements otherwise. This is the standard tool I use at present.


* Zotero ($Free): (as a dual-purpose tabbed-page Firefox extension and stand-alone client application) excellent; uses the same public domain engine as Scrapbook to provide a faithful local (client) copy of the web page in a non-proprietary format (so is shareable) and can also copy related files embedded in the webpage. An academic information/research-gathering tool From zotero.org (via George Mason University). I am currently trialing this (have been for a few months) and have so far found it to be very good for capturing web pages (full/partial content) and/or screenshots. I think this might be a tool that I could end up using as standard for (at least) webpage copy, edit and screenshot.


* Wezinc ($Free): a PIM for students and information workers, geared towards providing a client-based repository - enables the user to create mindmaps, text notes, passwords, capture from webpages, screenshots, files, and search for anything from a single source; links very effectively with the Clipboard.  I am currently trialing this (have been for a few months) and have so far found it to be very good, and, from an ergonomic perspective, it has a beautifully-designed GUI. I think this might be a tool that I could end up using as standard for (at least) webpage copy, edit and screenshot, if not as my primary PIM.


* WizNote ($Free): They now seem to have an English translation for large parts of this website (so less need for Google Translate or the S3.Google Translator extension). WizNote is a superb Cloud/client PIM which I have done a mini-review for in the DC Forum (now out-of-date as WizNote is under very active commercial development and improvement). WizNote is a PIM and with the new OLE (Object Linking and Embedding) features, seems to be becoming a "killer app" challenger to MS Office's OneNote and OneDrive approach.  I think this might be a tool that I could end up using as standard for (at least) webpage copy, edit and screenshot, if not as my primary PIM.


* Surfulater v3.0 (US$79.00): - as referred to by @dr_andus, above. Having trialed this, it seems to be a very good client-based PIM application with major strengths relating to web content capture, but for me it's proprietary database format was a very negative point, and it was/is simply just too expensive for what it appears to offer. Furthermore, I wouldn't buy it anyway, as, for some time now, it appears to have arrived at end-of-life, as the developer has for some obscure reason decided to put its development on hold and is apparently focused on superseding it with what seems to be a new replacement - a Cloud-based service called Clibu (refer Clibu V1 released, improved UI and easier to use) - which (though I could be wrong, of course), seems to me to be taking several steps backwards for techno-ideological reasons, or maybe it's to create a different business revenue model. From experience, this is what tends to happen when developers of seriously useful PIMs seem to focus on functionality at the loss of focus on user requirements - e.g., InfoSelect v10.

There are some other, now moribund, software apps for web page content/snapshot capture - tools that could be referred to here - including one (I forget its name) that @40hz said he used and was very good, and this (following), which I stumbled upon a couple of months back (I don't think these two are one and the same, though I could be wrong, of course):

* Internet Research Scout ($Free): (NLA at http://bytescout.com, but the download is for Special Edition (last/final version v2.22) from http://download.cnet.com/Internet-Research-Scout/3000-2064_4-10386528.html. This seems like a very good app that I am trialing at present, just out of interest.

nevf:
>- a Cloud-based service called Clibu (refer Clibu V1 released, improved UI and easier to use) - which (though I could be wrong, of course), seems to me to be taking several steps backwards for techno-ideological reasons, or maybe it's to create a different business revenue model. From experience, this is what tends to happen when developers of seriously useful PIMs seem to focus on functionality at the loss of focus on user requirements - e.g., InfoSelect v10.

Hi Neville here, author of Surfulater and Clibu. I'm a little intrigued by your comments on "Clibu - several steps backwards" and would appreciate it if you could elaborate. I see the opposite, but may well be somewhat blinkered in my view.

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