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Innuendo:
The people who implement things like this do have their hearts in the right place. However, generally speaking, people are stupid. They will click through any message, no matter how strongly worded, in order to have a chance to see the latest, hottest celebrity du jour naked or to have a chance at scoring music or software for free.
Wording the message stronger or making the process to get to the "I accept the risks. Download anyway." option more difficult to coerce the user into reading the warning only results in the users moving to browsers that are easier to use to download stuff.
The only real solution, which isn't really a solution, would be to bundle a full-blown malware/AV into the browser so only genuine threats were flagged, but who in the world would want to tackle that coding job, ongoing maintenance, *and* listening to critics declare your browser as bloatware?
I'd love to see a browser with a dialog that had two buttons. One displayed a thumbs up to download. The other displayed a thumbs down to cancel. The dialog would simply read "Idiots gonna be idiots. YOLO"
Now I want someone to code a Firefox/Pale Moon extension that does that. :)
Jibz:
The only real solution, which isn't really a solution, would be to bundle a full-blown malware/AV into the browser so only genuine threats were flagged, but who in the world would want to tackle that coding job, ongoing maintenance, *and* listening to critics declare your browser as bloatware?
-Innuendo (April 04, 2015, 09:26 AM)
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Surprisingly many of those also greet anything that looks even the slightest bit unusual with a big red Threat Found! dialog saying the user has something along the lines of Yadayada.Win32.Malware.generic-- where the thing to note is the generic keyword, but what most users will think is just "OMG I ran that file and I got a virus".
It's hard when most users have little idea what threats are, and it's safer for protection software to warn on anything to not risk missing a detection.
[/AV Rant]
MilesAhead:
I think there is an Avira browser and maybe an AddOn for Firefox or two that allows scan on the backbone before downloading to your machine. But how reliable is that anyway? It seems like the most accurate detection is for tracking cookies and perhaps a few very specific rootkits.
Another annoying thing if I try to scan one of my zip files with VirusTotal and it has already been scanned(who knows how long a history they use) instead of scanning the file it says "this has already been scanned" and offers to show the results. Gee that's really helpful. The old version showed 2 bad reports out of 57 scanners so we will never look at a file with this name again. Just tell you it was "bad" once upon a time in the west.
Deozaan:
it's not quite as bad as saying "We refuse to download this software because it will probably give you cancer", but you can see where we are going-mouser (April 04, 2015, 08:16 AM)
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But they already do that as well:
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=38693.0
Chrome just says the file is malicious and the only option is to dismiss the notification. You actually have to open your recent downloads list to be able to override this behavior and download the file. Chrome itself does not mention this workaround.
rgdot:
People's stupidity has brought us to this point. You think people don't or wouldn't blame the browser makers/authors if they get infected?
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