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wraith808:
Continuing where Stoic Joker left off, 'The Walking Dead' and 'Z Nation' are very enjoyable zombie TV-shows as well. Both are very different. TWD is already around for 5 seasons and none of these are bad. Z finished its 1st season and is much(!) more tongue-in-cheek.

'Helix' is also a very enjoyable. A lot of series from SyFy are. From them also comes a sci-fi mini-series, called 'Ascencion', which is very well done. Know as little as possible about this mini-series as possible for full enjoyment, though. 
-Shades (March 28, 2015, 06:25 PM)
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I only watch WD with my family to have some family TV time... but it's becoming less and less enjoyable, and not for the reasons one would say.  There's a certain amount of 'liberty' that Darabont has taken from the comics, and in some cases it changes the story in very ... charged ways.  Really not looking forward to it like I formerly was.

Renegade:
For some light campy mindless fun check out the new iZombie It's a knockoff of the 'Dead Like Me' formula, but very well done IMO.
-Stoic Joker (March 28, 2015, 02:29 PM)
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I'd not thought of that angle. I'd figured it was similar to "Forever" with a bit of the zombie spice thrown in. Many TV shows come out in pairs from competing networks.

Continuing where Stoic Joker left off, 'The Walking Dead' and 'Z Nation' are very enjoyable zombie TV-shows as well.
-Shades (March 28, 2015, 06:25 PM)
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Exactly like those 2 shows. :D

Or "Helix" and "The Last Ship".

The same happens in movies often, and in particular, in disaster movies.

It's like some kind of A/B testing.

I only watch WD with my family to have some family TV time... but it's becoming less and less enjoyable, and not for the reasons one would say.  There's a certain amount of 'liberty' that Darabont has taken from the comics, and in some cases it changes the story in very ... charged ways.  Really not looking forward to it like I formerly was.
-wraith808 (March 29, 2015, 08:18 AM)
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I'm not familiar with the comic, so it's all new to me. Seems fine though. It's one of the better shows out there.

Innuendo:
There's a certain amount of 'liberty' that Darabont has taken from the comics, and in some cases it changes the story in very ... charged ways.  Really not looking forward to it like I formerly was.-wraith808 (March 29, 2015, 08:18 AM)
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It's important that these liberties you speak of are taken with the blessing of Robert Kirkman, the creator of the comic book. In a lot of cases, these liberties are solely Kirkman's ideas to change things that he was decidedly not happy with the way they turned out in the comic. Other changes are made to give Kirkman and crew opportunities to explore paths not taken.

Does every alteration strike gold? No, but every path explored in the comic didn't, either. If the  TV show were a 100% accurate adaptation of the comic book I would still watch. However, my enjoyment would be lessened because there'd be no suspense in what came next. I'd always know what was around the next corner.

At least this way I have two different, excellent stories with the same strong cast of characters (more or less) and I can enjoy one freely without worry of encountering spoilers for the other. Just think of the TV show as being an alternate universe. :)

Innuendo:
The 12 Monkeys movie was so damn good, I decided against watching the show.  :P-nosh (March 28, 2015, 10:38 AM)
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Big mistake...they have taken a "How the heck is this going to work?" concept and turned it into something that is definitely worth watching. I was very surprised.

Black Sails (Starz drama about pirates) is also good viewing - I've loved every Starz show I've watched so far.
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For those that don't know, Black Sails takes the crazy position of taking the characters from the classic novel Treasure Island (Yes! Long John Silver), setting the clock back 20 years before the events in the novel take place and chronicles how Captain Flint first encounters Long John Silver. Oh, and they throw in a very liberal dose of real, historical pirates into the mix. Anyone who likes pirates and/or swashbuckling should give it a go.

I'm about to start watching Outlander soon (another Starz show) - I haven't read the book(s?) or watched the movie(s?) so know very little about the premise but I've got a good feeling about it.
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Don't know if my reply will reach you in time to save you. Most of the promo material for the show leaves out the "Harlequin Romance Novel" parts of the plot-line. Then again...maybe you like romance novels? :)

wraith808:
There's a certain amount of 'liberty' that Darabont has taken from the comics, and in some cases it changes the story in very ... charged ways.  Really not looking forward to it like I formerly was.-wraith808 (March 29, 2015, 08:18 AM)
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It's important that these liberties you speak of are taken with the blessing of Robert Kirkman, the creator of the comic book. In a lot of cases, these liberties are solely Kirkman's ideas to change things that he was decidedly not happy with the way they turned out in the comic. Other changes are made to give Kirkman and crew opportunities to explore paths not taken.

Does every alteration strike gold? No, but every path explored in the comic didn't, either. If the  TV show were a 100% accurate adaptation of the comic book I would still watch. However, my enjoyment would be lessened because there'd be no suspense in what came next. I'd always know what was around the next corner.

At least this way I have two different, excellent stories with the same strong cast of characters (more or less) and I can enjoy one freely without worry of encountering spoilers for the other. Just think of the TV show as being an alternate universe. :)


-Innuendo (March 29, 2015, 11:15 AM)
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It really doesn't matter about the blessing of the liberties.  It's the nature of the liberties in and of themselves.  I was going to avoid bringing them up, but others have said the same things that have struck me over time in a much better way than I, so I'll just leave this here:

https://stevenbarneslife.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/why-walking-dead-is-dead-to-me/

I'm not expecting understanding- one needs to be in the situation to understand it to an extent.  It's just pervasive and I feel it, so it is affecting my enjoyment of it.  And this isn't the only person that has noticed it- and from a very different perspective because they didn't really 'get' it, other than the fact that it exists.

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