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Vivaldi, the new Web browser for power users

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MilesAhead:
^ following with interest :) :up:
-tomos (May 17, 2016, 10:35 AM)
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I have the previous snapshot on now.  Annoyingly it makes you uninstall any newer version before it will let you install it.  A snapshot should go on like Firefox Nightly to a different folder etc..  But at least it picks up settings extensions and bookmarks if you don't delete your data during the uninstall.

It seems a bit better but nothing really satisfying.  I don't know if it is the new engines or what.  It just seems like scrolling is awfully sticky no matter what browser I use.

I suspect that they would run somewhat smoother if I did not have RollbackRX installed.  But even so it just seems weird.  I seem to remember dial-up with my 56K external USR modem being smoother than this.  :)

MilesAhead:
The main stumbling block so far is trying to show favicons in the bookmarks.  There is no equivalent of the Firefox Favicon Reload to automate loading them up.  And messing with the bookmark sync online stuff is a nightmare.  Usually you end up with duplicated bookmarks galore.

In the old days when a browser used a single exe file and loaded in a few seconds my bv.exe browser visit could brute force it with most any browser just by launching the url to open the default browser.  After loading 10 tabs it would kill the exe, and run 10 more until it exhausted the bookmarks.html file.  Now browsers weigh 10 tons and take over a minute to come up.  Also they are multi-exe so killing one exe doesn't set it up to reopen clean again.

I hate it when a simple problem has no simple solution just because the application in question is a tower of kludge.  Seems like all the browsers now are a house of cards.  They jitter, quiver, hang and do everything but run steady.  :)

Tuxman:
- oops. I should learn to read. -

MilesAhead:
After playing around with this for a bit I found a few things that are deal breakers for me:

Even syncing with Xmarks bookmark sync, which will sync without dupes in the lastest snapshot, will not sync the favicons.  Some may see this as a quibble but I like having the favicons and being able to refresh them without spending a couple of days doing it.  I have over 250 bookmarks.  Perhaps half of those are in the Bookmarks Bar folder structure. It just makes it easier to see what is what with the icons.

On startup, whether opening to a blank page or to a Speed Dial there seems to be a hesitation before it will accept input.  This is the main reason I cannot tolerate Firefox as my goto browser anymore.  Firefox is even worse with a 20 to 30 second lag before I can type into the address bar.

The forum moderators use condescension when they cannot defend the product with rational argument.  I have no need to waste my time snit picking with those who want to impart spin to the issues.

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What I have found is that the SlimJet Portable browser I have been using as a backup browser has qualities that have come to the fore recently:

1) Xmarks bookmark sync or importing a bookmarks.html from Firefox seems to get the favicons without making it a life's work.

2) I notice that even though I have it set to start with Fast Dial rather than a blank page, when I open the browser via clicking the link or by launching a url, the dial does not hamper the browser loading.  It snaps right up there and will accept a url typed into the address bar.

3) The auto check for updates seems to work even though this is the portable version of the browser.  Edit: maybe because it is a major version update it did no sense 10.0.1.0 update available yesterday.

4) I signed up for the SlimJet Forum.  But I just checked and clicking Browse Your Posts shows a total of 0.  So I haven't had to badger anyone over there to get something working.  :)

I like using Firefox and am used to it.  But the performance issues are so annoying now that I have to relegate it to backup browser status.  Unless they break it, SlimJet seems to be one of the more well thought out chrome implementations.

The UI was kind of appealing but I have uninstalled Vivaldi as just not being close to ready for prime time.

Clairvaux:
My personal path, though the years, was IE > Maxthon > Opera (former generation) > Firefox.

The browser I preferred was Maxthon. It's the only one which gave me this feeling, which is the nirvana of software :


* You never ask yourself how to do things, because it's obvious.
* When you try to do something extra, you discover that the developers had thought about it before, and they implemented it exactly the way you had imagined it.
* When you explore new features, you discover that you had actually wanted them all the time, but did not know about it.
* Oh, and your screen looks nice. Beauty is important. Men work and play better when doing it in a beautiful environment.
Currently, I use Firefox, but I don't like it. So I installed Vivaldi and had a quick tour. Honestly, I can't see the point. It hints at being a power user browser, it's supposed to consider people as adults instead of toddlers that can't be trusted with too many options, but where's the beef ? What's different from other browsers ?

OK, its slightly better (but less pretty) than current-generation Opera, which is for babies anyway. But how is it more powerful than Firefox ? Maxthon was much more impressive 10 years ago.

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