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Windows 10 Announced
What’s the Best Antivirus for Windows 10? (Is Windows Defender Good Enough?)
An article that recommends Malwarebytes. Who here doesn't like it?
IainB:
What’s the Best Antivirus for Windows 10? (Is Windows Defender Good Enough?)
An article that recommends Malwarebytes. Who here doesn't like it?
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-Arizona Hot (August 15, 2016, 07:53 PM)
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The Windows OS now comes bundled with the built-in "Defender" - which seems to comprise 3 integrated but separate components:
* UAC (User Access Control)
* a firewall
* an AV (Anti-Virus) app.The AV is/was an apparently highly-regarded commercial Microsoft product previously released under the name of MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) for $FREE, for domestic and (if I recall correctly) SMBs (Small-to-Medium Businesses).
The engine in MSE is/was used by businesses and banks because it was apparently very good - or so I was told by a network systems engineer in a Kiwi bank. I wrote a review of MSE on the DC forum, starting after MSE was first released for $FREE, and following it up in ad-hoc fashion as the product evolved. It was and continues to be an excellent product, actively developed and supported by Microsoft, and has clearly become an integral part of their Windows OS today.
The McAfee/Norton/Symantec/whatever branded virus tools that come bundled as "FREE" apps with Windows on new OEM PCs seem to be largely targeted at the domestic/single-user market, and typically seem to start nagging for annual subscription payments after the first year, or something. Most consumers likely regard them as useful/necessary, not realising that they are actually redundant at the outset.
I noticed (and I think I have commented elsewhere about this on this forum) that Norton/Symantec aggressively even inhibited the start-up and/or installation of Defender (virus checker) and Malwarebytes in Win8/10, and so had to be expunged with prejudice before one could install/run them cleanly. I consider this cuckoo-like behaviour against competitive products on the customer's own ruddy PC to be a predatory and unethical commercial practice, and I would argue that such AV vendors should be shunned for engaging in such sharp practice.
I have also written a review of MBAM (Malwarebytes Anti-Malware) on DC forum and followed it up in ad-hoc fashion as the product evolved. For the reasons given in the review thread, MBAM seems to be an excellent product - but that is for the $PAID version.
What I would point out is that:
* (a) MSE ($FREE in Defender) is a very good AV app (QED) and
* (b) MBAM ($PAID) as a very good AM (Anti-Malware) app, and
* (c) that the two things do not perform the same function, though they can at times seem to overlap in functionality - e.g., when it comes to detecting some PUPs (Potentially Unwanted Programs).
So, what this would seem to indicate is that the Windows OS has an excellent $FREE AV app (or at least, the cost is included in the OS cost) within Defender, and thus making use of other AV apps as an alternative could possibly be a WOT (Waste Of Time) - as they could be inferior, not necessarily any better, and certainly redundant and also would probably be NOT $FREE. So most informed users would probably not need to consider using them, except perhaps as (say) an academic exercise or a suck-it-and-see trial (as I tend to do).
However, MBAM has a lot going for it on its own - as an AM app to augment the defense of the system security, regardless of whichever AV app one uses. MBAM can mitigate risks that might not necessarily be caught/treated by the AV app, and can also be used (by design) to clean up PC's hard drives that have already been infected with a PUP/Hijack/virus or general malware, and it (the $PAID version) also has a very handy and effective real-time monitoring tool of user web-browsing activity. For most users, web-browsing, file downloads and reading of online email could potentially provide the most likely channels for a PC to become infected with a virus or other malware. MBAM can fill an important security gap here, and this could make MBAM valuable - if not essential - for that reason, in these malware-abundant times.
For example, having used MBAM with a vengeance and having experienced some of its capabilities whilst cleaning up other people's malware-infested PCs, I reckon my children's online browsing and game-playing is certainly that much more secure because of MBAM.
The reason why I use MSE and MBAM together is that they complement each other, overlap to a limited extent, and both have a precautionary approach - better-safe-than-sorry. Using them both together, nothing seems to have fallen between the cracks so far, over several years and several PCs.
Arizona Hot:
Windows 10 Announced
Microsoft has struck again.
IainB:
After some procrastination - because I knew it was not going to be straightforward - I bit the bullet and sorted the Toshiba laptop which had been having the endlessly looping Win10 update cycle (approx. 30 minutes, every time).
First, I did a lot of backing-up and then donned a pair of brown trousers - just in case - before going to Use Windows 10 Media Creation Tool to Create Installation Media or Upgrade PC and downloaded the MCT onto a USB and then forced the clean install onto said laptop.
Of course, it expunged an awful lot of stuff in addition to the old OS (Win10-64 PRO), especially the Program Files, so I are now in the process of slowly rebuilding/reinstalling a swathe of proggies, not the least of which is MS Office 2016. Good job I keep track of all the necessary licences (well, I hope I have).
Oh, and by the way, it comes free with its own peculiar bug (seems to be common):
(Which is curious, because I'm not on the Insider Program.)
I now have the Win10-64 Home system, and am wondering whether to get the PRO version reinstated on that laptop or swap it to another one. This is apparently possible now if the OS was licenced via one's Outlook account ID.
What an unproductive exercise it has been so far though. I dread having to waste more time on it.
IainB:
I mentioned above how I did a forced clean install of Win10-64 Basic/Home onto a laptop that had Win10 installed, but could not run the Win10 "Anniversary update".
I later got the PRO version reinstated, but not on that laptop, by inserting the licence key in the appropriate box on the Windows Update section of Settings. It worked just fine. Painless.
By the way, there is an alternative approach to getting ISO downloads for Win7, 8, 8.1, 10 etc. documented here:
Download Windows 7, 8.1 or 10 ISO Images Direct From Microsoft
That really is a superb article. It got me out of a hole today as I needed to install a Win7-32bit Home Premium on a new hard disk for a friend’s laptop whose disk had corrupted horribly and which was unrecoverable. All he had was the Licence Key and no restore disk or anything.
The procedure described in the article worked a treat - though it was a bit technical - and the author had the forethought to provide the SHA1 checksums for the various ISO files downloaded. Microsoft seem to have taken that page down for some reason.
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