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mahesh2k:
If it's just for excel, word and browser work, I don't think MS will lose any customer even with Cloud OS.
But from monthly payment type of plans for OS, I don't think other than first world countries, it'll be much interest anyone.
In fact, some of the small business companies will move to linux or unix variants to save costs. After-all paying monthly for the sake of using OS, is financial leak. And any sane business benefits from closing such leak.
This will also help Apple and Linux, because developers will move to these OS, as not all the developers write code for profit. With locked in cloud OS, and developer certificates and subscription stuff, it only makes it expensive for coders to build stuff for MS from here onwards.
app103:
If it's just for excel, word and browser work, I don't think MS will lose any customer even with Cloud OS.
But from monthly payment type of plans for OS, I don't think other than first world countries, it'll be much interest anyone.
In fact, some of the small business companies will move to linux or unix variants to save costs. After-all paying monthly for the sake of using OS, is financial leak. And any sane business benefits from closing such leak.
This will also help Apple and Linux, because developers will move to these OS, as not all the developers write code for profit. With locked in cloud OS, and developer certificates and subscription stuff, it only makes it expensive for coders to build stuff for MS from here onwards.
-mahesh2k (May 13, 2015, 05:55 AM)
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I think you have a good 10 years before you'd have to worry about the possibility of a subscription based OS from Microsoft. I think the only ones that may have to pay for a subscription would be Enterprise users, and that wouldn't be for OS licensing and usage...it would be for support, which they would likely have to pay for no matter what OS they are using, including Linux.
So, for the foreseeable future, if you want to save money as a consumer, make sure your next PC is built to last, both in quality of hardware and specs. You want it to last as long as possible without it dying or becoming obsolete.
-app103 (May 12, 2015, 07:20 PM)
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This is my fear though: MS will be able to make your hardware remotely obsolete by releasing an update that makes some key features inoperable or key software non-functional, to force you to buy a new device, whenever they need some extra revenue.
Currently you have the option to stick with XP or Win7, as long as your machine is working, sticking with old but functional software.
Case in point: I have a perfectly functioning iPad 1 with an amazing battery that is useless to me because the main apps I used decided to abandon that device once Apple made its OS unupdatable for those specs.
-dr_andus (May 13, 2015, 04:11 AM)
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I really wouldn't worry about Microsoft releasing an update with the intention of making a large number of systems obsolete, just to force people to buy a new computer. I would worry more about the app and web developers increasing the bloat and resource usage till you are forced to buy a new machine, just to be capable of having enough ram installed to check your email.
In 2008, there was nothing to stop me from playing flash games on my old PC, except the flash games themselves, nothing to stop me from using most web apps except the heavy reliance on Javascript that required a lot more ram than the PC was capable of having installed. Microsoft didn't do that to get me to buy a new PC. They had no control over that.
You think Microsoft forces people to build stuff like this so people would be forced to buy a new computer with a preinstalled copy of Windows? http://www.sbs.com.au/theboat/
And besides, there will always be consumers that go right for the lower price tag of a low spec machine that is destined to last 2 years, at most. There is no shortage of wasteful fools in this world, willing to buy cheap crap for now, repeatedly, over paying more for something built to last.
This is why discount stores still sell plenty of pairs of crappy $15 sneakers that fall apart in a month. There is no shortage of people willing to blow $180 a year by buying 12 pairs of them, over spending $70 on a single pair that would last them more than a year. And they actually think they are saving money with that $15 price tag. They don't really understand the first thing about frugality.
And while you and I might actually opt to upgrade the hardware in an existing machine, when it's needed, they never will. They toss the old and buy a whole new machine. Hell, I know people that would rather buy a new laptop every year, than clean the malware off the old one to make it usable again. Microsoft will still make plenty of money from them.
Frugal people are a minority, while wasteful fools pretty much describes most of the general population.
mahesh2k:
Frugal people are a minority, while wasteful fools pretty much describes most of the general population.
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TaoPhoenix:
This is why discount stores still sell plenty of pairs of crappy $15 sneakers that fall apart in a month. There is no shortage of people willing to blow $180 a year by buying 12 pairs of them, over spending $70 on a single pair that would last them more than a year. And they actually think they are saving money with that $15 price tag. They don't really understand the first thing about frugality.
-app103 (May 13, 2015, 09:58 AM)
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Not sure if this will drift too far off topic, but for me at least shoes are in their own weird category. Last winter I bought a pair of cheap shoes knowing full well I wasn't getting efficient value or anything, knowing they'd disintegrate kinda fast, but merely to kick "February's problem" into "May's problem", when I gauged (correctly) I would simply be in better emotional shape to put the work in to re-deal with with the problem. (Turned out, I had some "emergency sneakers" in my cache of supplies in my lair, and I think they have lasted almost a year (with very light usage, to be sure.)) But Fairly Soon Now, I do plan to go get some good new shoes with value.
So maybe in the comp world, people might dump $400 into a netbook with the same strategy, knowing it's not a true value, but just because their old machine tanked or something, and they just want to bump the clock while slowly thinking about a real replacement. And also, like me, waiting to try to get some crucial "state of the industry" knowledge that only appears with the passage of time.
MilesAhead:
This is why discount stores still sell plenty of pairs of crappy $15 sneakers that fall apart in a month.
-app103 (May 13, 2015, 09:58 AM)
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Heh. First time I read this I saw speakers and thought about how my crappy $15 speakers lasted a few years. :) I agree on the shoes. Rockport Walking Shoes were the best I ever owned. I wore them all day every day and used no other shoes/slippers. Got 10 years out of 'em. :)
The worst is when I see people on the street who have had their shoes stolen. You can tell because they are wearing socks with $1.95 flip flops. :down:
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