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Bleep… Bittorrent unveils serverless & encrypted chat client
40hz:
Bittorrent is a hype. I'm slightly angered with aversion about hypes. I never was into pop culture.
-Tuxman (August 04, 2014, 12:05 PM)
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Of course it is. But again, so what?
Bleep is a "wrong approach" to dealing with the problem anyway. Hype or no hype.
Let them dream their dream. ;D
Deozaan:
It seems Bleep is in open pre-alpha:
http://labs.bittorrent.com/bleep/
Deozaan:
Apparently Tox beat Bleep to the party:
A New Kind of Instant Messaging
With the rise of government monitoring programs, Tox provides an easy to use application that allows you to connect with friends and family without anyone else listening in. While other big-name services require you to pay for features, Tox is totally free, and comes without advertising.
About Tox
Nowadays, every government seems to be interested in what we're saying online. Tox is built on a "privacy goes first" agenda, and we make no compromises. Your safety is our top priority, and there isn't anything in the world that will change that.
Instant messaging, video conferencing, and more
-https://tox.im/
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And when they say "totally free" they mean open source, too!
They have downloads available for multiple operating systems, including Windows, OSX, Linux, and Android!
https://tox.im/
Nod5:
Yeah, but how does the client know who to communicate your IP address to? -Deozaan (August 04, 2014, 08:24 AM)
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... like a torrent. There are trackers that know the locations of peers holding data. But they don't know what the content of the data is. And when the actual data of a message gets transferred, it's done peer-to-peer so there's no metadata passing through a central server where it can be easily intercepted. ... actual communication takes place directly between the parties themselves. -40hz (August 04, 2014, 08:58 AM)
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Are those trackers run by Bittorrent Inc?
BTW does the peer matching for Bittorrent Sync work the same way? Some write ups claim that Bittorrent Sync is more secure than Dropbox since the data isn't cloud stored. But if the client matching happens in the cloud a powerful agency could require the cloud operator to hand over the secret key and then use the key to access the Sync folder directly on the client. Likewise a malicious employee who previously would try to circumvent company security to access a client data item would now instead try to circumvent company security to get the client's secret key and with it get the data directly from the client. Bittorrent saves money on not having to host and transfer the data and client may see higher speeds. But is it in practice any more secure than Dropbox style services?
superboyac:
Yeah, but how does the client know who to communicate your IP address to? -Deozaan (August 04, 2014, 08:24 AM)
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... like a torrent. There are trackers that know the locations of peers holding data. But they don't know what the content of the data is. And when the actual data of a message gets transferred, it's done peer-to-peer so there's no metadata passing through a central server where it can be easily intercepted. ... actual communication takes place directly between the parties themselves. -40hz (August 04, 2014, 08:58 AM)
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Are those trackers run by Bittorrent Inc?
BTW does the peer matching for Bittorrent Sync work the same way? Some write ups claim that Bittorrent Sync is more secure than Dropbox since the data isn't cloud stored. But if the client matching happens in the cloud a powerful agency could require the cloud operator to hand over the secret key and then use the key to access the Sync folder directly on the client. Likewise a malicious employee who previously would try to circumvent company security to access a client data item would now instead try to circumvent company security to get the client's secret key and with it get the data directly from the client. Bittorrent saves money on not having to host and transfer the data and client may see higher speeds. But is it in practice any more secure than Dropbox style services?
-Nod5 (August 15, 2014, 03:40 AM)
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Interesting question, didn't really think about that. I use btsync and it's great, I love how nothing is stored in the cloud. TO answer the question, I think I'll reference 40hz' posts regarding privacy and how there basically is none in the current computer/internet setup, and it's a game that we're just playing amongst ourselves in a system that is already compromised.
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