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I'd like to get a Windows Tablet: help me decide.
superboyac:
I really want to get a convertible. They look so cool! But my experience with my windows tablet sours me on that. And I just can't get into android, even though I have one now (my nook). Things just seem so much harder to get done. I was thinking that my Nook might be the gateway into Android for me. But It's turned out to be the exact opposite- I just use it for reading.
-wraith808 (October 27, 2014, 10:16 AM)
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You are exactly right...trying to get stuff done on the android can get pretty annoying. Especially if you are used to a Windows mindset and trying to make android compatible with that workflow.
What windows tablet do you have? I almost went the convertible route, but after trying it a few times, it didn't last for me. Too big, I ended up using it like a laptop, as many end up doing. You just don't need all that keyboard all of the time, especially if the touch response is good and the tablet itself is light like the surface pro. So now I just carry a spare bluetooth keyboard just in case, but am using some tricks to get around the keyboard thing. Mainly these onscreen configurable toolbars that artists are now using.
The windows tablet is the most cutting edge device right now. The only thing that will challenge it is either a Mac OSX touch tablet or a Linux tablet. I'll qualify this by saying I'm approaching this from a productivity/business standpoint, which really just means I do more than just "email/browsing/watching/reading". (and even those are better on the windows tablet).
wraith808:
What windows tablet do you have?
-superboyac (October 29, 2014, 01:42 PM)
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I had a dell venue 8 pro. I really wanted to like it, but ended up selling it a few months after I got it. The primary feel I got was one of promise, but still not ready for prime-time. Like a pretty covering placed over imperfections.
The major reasons that made me sell it while I could:
1. The interaction of not-metro with the desktop
2. the feel of the tablet with the desktop
3. low-level interactions and the fact that you could be handicapped by the fact that it was a tablet
4. power management and its relation to other functionality
It just got to be too annoying and inconvenient to ignore.
superboyac:
What windows tablet do you have?
-superboyac (October 29, 2014, 01:42 PM)
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I had a dell venue 8 pro. I really wanted to like it, but ended up selling it a few months after I got it. The primary feel I got was one of promise, but still not ready for prime-time. Like a pretty covering placed over imperfections.
The major reasons that made me sell it while I could:
1. The interaction of not-metro with the desktop
2. the feel of the tablet with the desktop
3. low-level interactions and the fact that you could be handicapped by the fact that it was a tablet
4. power management and its relation to other functionality
It just got to be too annoying and inconvenient to ignore.
-wraith808 (October 29, 2014, 03:30 PM)
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Very interesting. I also felt the venue would have been a promising tablet.
wraith808:
Microsoft has a special on the HP Stream 7 signature edition tablet (meaning no crapware and a bare install). It was only $79, and came with a $25 app store gift card and a year's sub to office 365, so it seemed like a good deal. What it really did was bring into life a few more issues- real deal breakers.
It's a nice tablet, with a nice build. A lot thicker than my ipad mini, but it feels good in the hand. A bit bigger than my nook, but I really like it. For $79 I don't feel that I've wasted money exactly, since I can use it as a test bed for apps. But I wouldn't replace my mini (iOS) nor nook (Android) with it.
On the multi-purpose front, there's nothing in the App Store. So with a $25 credit, I can't even find anything to spend it on. And it expires in 3 months, so that's not likely to change in that timeframe.
On the reader front (I'd thought to replace my nook with something that I'm more familiar with), it just doesn't have the battery life to compete. With either device.
I performed a test. I fully charged my mini (the battery's already older on it) and the new stream 7. Then I unplugged them and left them going, doing absolutely nothing but sitting on my desk. I powered them on that same night. Or tried to. The stream 7 wouldn't power on because of low battery. The ipad mini was still at 100%. I fully charged the stream 7 again. Today, it's at 30%. My iPad mini is still at 100%. That's with zero use. Just sitting there. And on my nook, I read on it regularly, and charge it maybe once a week? Until they get the battery problems sorted, they shouldn't be marketing it. Because it's hurting them.
superboyac:
Microsoft has a special on the HP Stream 7 signature edition tablet (meaning no crapware and a bare install). It was only $79, and came with a $25 app store gift card and a year's sub to office 365, so it seemed like a good deal. What it really did was bring into life a few more issues- real deal breakers.
It's a nice tablet, with a nice build. A lot thicker than my ipad mini, but it feels good in the hand. A bit bigger than my nook, but I really like it. For $79 I don't feel that I've wasted money exactly, since I can use it as a test bed for apps. But I wouldn't replace my mini (iOS) nor nook (Android) with it.
On the multi-purpose front, there's nothing in the App Store. So with a $25 credit, I can't even find anything to spend it on. And it expires in 3 months, so that's not likely to change in that timeframe.
On the reader front (I'd thought to replace my nook with something that I'm more familiar with), it just doesn't have the battery life to compete. With either device.
I performed a test. I fully charged my mini (the battery's already older on it) and the new stream 7. Then I unplugged them and left them going, doing absolutely nothing but sitting on my desk. I powered them on that same night. Or tried to. The stream 7 wouldn't power on because of low battery. The ipad mini was still at 100%. I fully charged the stream 7 again. Today, it's at 30%. My iPad mini is still at 100%. That's with zero use. Just sitting there. And on my nook, I read on it regularly, and charge it maybe once a week? Until they get the battery problems sorted, they shouldn't be marketing it. Because it's hurting them.
-wraith808 (March 06, 2015, 08:23 AM)
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I hear you. The battery problem I think is a Windows OS problem. Windows wifi features were not intended for mobile devices like tablets and phones. They're usually just on all the time. Now that they are using the full Windows OS on mobile devices, they have really been having problems with the wifi stuff related to battery life. It's really pretty annoying to the end user. I have a surface pro, and when I turn the screen on, it may take a minute or more before the wifi network is ready. And if I turn it off and on again, same thing. On Android and iOS devices, the wifi is always on I think, battery life is preserved when the screen is off, and it doesn't take a long time to connect. This also has to do with cellular/wifi interactions as well. Anyway, a full Windows OS doesn't seem to have these features. They've tried addressing it and fixing it in many ways, all of them have been little to no improvement.
Windows 10 better fix this problem. I mean, what else are they doing? It can't be this hard to figure this out...especially when apple and android already have had it figured out for a long time. So MS is just screwing around and being coy about their attempts to fix this.
Now, some people will say windows is different in that it has to work on a variety of third party hardware, unlike apple. OK fine, but android has the same problem and they've figured it out. MS is just deliberately not addressing this. And they have more things like this. Like their pen technology on the surface tablets has issues that take forever to be addressed. So MS is just being annoying...saving all these fixes and features for upcoming upgrades...Windows 10, 11, etc. surface pro 4, 5, etc.
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