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Ignorance is Strength - Censorship just got VERY real

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Stoic Joker:
BC can make laws about California all they want. But they don't have the authority/power to enforce those laws in California. The only way those laws would make a difference is if Google/California/USA chose to follow them.-Deozaan (June 18, 2014, 02:39 PM)
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Unless there is a cash incentive. Because for the right price the corporate types would put their own mothers in a fire without blinking.

40hz:
That's what I mean. BC can make laws about California all they want. But they don't have the authority/power to enforce those laws in California. The only way those laws would make a difference is if Google/California/USA chose to follow them.
-Deozaan (June 18, 2014, 02:39 PM)
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Same goes for anywhere and any government however. For example: The US has decided (under a law it wrote) that US laws are enforceable all over the world. But while this gives the US broad "legal authority" - in practice it's just bombast and bluster. Doable if the enforcement action takes place in a country that lacks the military might to stop it (e.g. Panama). Also doable in countries that traditionally toady up are allies of the US (e.g. NZ, Britain, Canada, etc.). Not so doable in countries that piss the US off but have a strong military and police agencies of their own (e.g. Russia, China).

In the end it comes downn to the age old adage: Might makes right - and ultimately determines how much you can get away with. A truth every bully who ever lived has taken to heart.
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40hz:
BC can make laws about California all they want. But they don't have the authority/power to enforce those laws in California. The only way those laws would make a difference is if Google/California/USA chose to follow them.-Deozaan (June 18, 2014, 02:39 PM)
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Unless there is a cash incentive. Because for the right price the corporate types would put their own mothers in a fire without blinking.

-Stoic Joker (June 18, 2014, 06:32 PM)
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Some don't even need that much. Terry Pratchett once said it's amazing the terrible things people will do for money - but even more amazing are the terrible things they'll do absolutely free.

wraith808:
Some don't even need that much. Terry Pratchett once said it's amazing the terrible things people will do for money - but even more amazing are the terrible things they'll do absolutely free.
-40hz (June 18, 2014, 06:54 PM)
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This.

Renegade:
Erm... How can a province of Canada tell a U.S. company what to do?

What about that thing called jurisdiction? Or that other thing called sovereignty? :huh:
-Deozaan (June 18, 2014, 12:30 AM)
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Bingo!

States regularly overstep any semblance of what their jurisdiction is. For example...

FATCA - This is a massive overstep of jurisdiction by the criminals in Washington D.C. to give themselves more power to reach into people's pockets.

Child prostitution laws - In Canada and a few other countries, you can be tried for child prostitution crimes committed abroad in another country. While child prostitution is beyond sick, the same judicial overreach is disgusting. Why can't the same principle be applied to smoking marijuana abroad in jurisdictions where it is legal? Well, there's nothing stopping the criminals in Ottawa or other crime syndicates in other capital cities from doing the same.

In 2003 my business partner was outside of the country. The government shut down our COMPLETELY LEGAL business because it threatened their interests. We were both punished despite him not even being in the country.

States have no respect for borders. This is just another example of massive overreach.

And this time, it's about states taking the power to censor.

But it makes sense for the bigger bullies to have this first "decision" rendered in Canada. Canada has a certain reputation (deserved or not) and they can use that to then say, "Oh, but the Canadians did it, so it must be Ok, because Canadians are really nice and always say 'sorry.'" Pfft.

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