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Edward Snowden's Email Provider Shut Down Rather Than Comply With Feds
Renegade:
This is not over yet. :(
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130816/14533924213/feds-threaten-to-arrest-lavabit-founder-shutting-down-his-service.shtml
Feds Threaten To Arrest Lavabit Founder For Shutting Down His Service
from the either-you-help-us-spy-on-people-or-you're-a-criminal dept
The saga of Lavabit founder Ladar Levison is getting even more ridiculous, as he explains that the government has threatened him with criminal charges for his decision to shut down the business, rather than agree to some mysterious court order. The feds are apparently arguing that the act of shutting down the business, itself, was a violation of the order:
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:o
Are.you.fsck.ing.kidding?
Ahem... There's this thing that's illegal in the US and pretty much everywhere else in the world.
It's, uh, called "slavery".
"Slavery" is when you force someone to work for you against their will or where you steal someone's labour against their will.
Rather than become a slave for these criminals, he shut his business down. Now they're trying to say that not becoming a slave is illegal?
We are so fscking deep in shit if this is the kind of thinking we have in our governments... We are completely and truly fscked.
Attronarch:
P.S. If anyone knows of a good email service provider with a similar policy, please let me know.
-Edvard (August 08, 2013, 11:24 PM)
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riseup.net
wraith808:
relevant: https://www.riseup.net/en/riseup-and-government-faq
Renegade:
^^ short of extended incarceration
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I like how they say that twice. :) "We're not going to prison for you." Very reasonable! :Thmbsup: (Do read the rest - I've taken that out of context there.)
Renegade:
Good article over at Techdirt on "corporate seppuku":
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130816/08404424206/who-will-take-privacy-seppuku-pledge.shtml
Who Will Take The Privacy Seppuku Pledge?
from the after-you dept
When Techdirt wrote recently about yet another secure email provider opting to close down its service rather than acquiesce in some future US government demand to spy on its users, we noted that Cryptocloud has promised something similar for a while -- what it terms "corporate seppuku":
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Check there for more and links to other stuff.
It's a good question. It basically asks you to come forward if you have any decent principles. i.e. Don't expect many companies to do so. ;)
Crypto-cat and Cryptocloud are the only 2 to do so as of yet. I hope more get on board.
I think Patrick Henry came up with the most popularly cited precursor to "corporate seppuku":
Give me liberty, or give me death.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_me_Liberty,_or_give_me_Death!
Longer versionIt is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace – but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
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