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How Google is Killing Honest (Organic) Search
TaoPhoenix:
Well, I never use "regular seach" anymore, ever. But let's narrow down that vague phrase "good results". What exactly is a good result?
1. Wikipedia and IMDB
If I am having a TV/Movie night, then these two sites are all I want to mix and match "name that actor" and "tell me some of the production backstory and the budget vs. revenue ratio". So why bother using Google at all? I have them both as engines in Firefox.
The rest of the points revolve around Advanced Search. If I want to look up a "red box", I don't want "(other) boxes and (other) red things". In my worst grouchy days I consider "regular search" as the inside joke for computer novices.
2. "Include all these words and/or Exact Phrase". So what is a "good result"? You have to spend a minute with yourself and ask "what category of result am I looking for?" If you just put "Japanese" into a search, you get everything from the language to people to electronics. So if what you really mean is a Japanese food restaurant, then put that in and your location.
If you're looking for high grade computer advice, then put in a phrase for Exact Phrase as well as some other words. That's because sales pages can't (normally!) have sane ad copy that includes something like "your settings" in a restaurant review.
3. "Do Not Include". So the SEO guys are made sure that H I J K and L show up first when you really want A B and C. But you don't want to spend all day writing search queries. So look at the junk results and find a word common to the worst offender. So if I want to put a search for "Phoenix" into the web, I'd stick "Do Not Include Arizona" into there.
SergXov:
Each year Google becomes more and more of a greedy obnoxious a**hole of a company.. One day we are going to look back and ask ourselves how we allowed an advertising company to so completely control the internet.
Google is building a new version of the search engine that made it great. This time, however, it is a search engine exclusive to the garden of Google products. If you compete with Google in any way, you’re in its crosshairs. Your chances of ranking high enough to garner traffic are virtually nil and getting smaller.
The scariest part of this is that, if you sell something using the internet, regardless of whether or not you see yourself as a “local" business - or think you’re competing with Google - Google sees you as competition. Searching for “Camera" or “Buy a Dress Shirt" gets you a nearly identical split of screen real estate as that of “local" searches. Nearly everything leads back to a Google product except for an ever-decreasing amount of “Organic" real estate.
It’s Google’s world, and from now on, you’ll have to pay to play in it.
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http://blog.tutorspree.com/post/54349646327/death-of-organic-search
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-mouser (July 02, 2013, 05:31 PM)
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I'm absolutely agree with you .
IainB:
Each year Google becomes more and more of a greedy obnoxious a**hole of a company.. One day we are going to look back and ask ourselves how we allowed an advertising company to so completely control the internet.
Google is building a new version of the search engine that made it great. This time, however, it is a search engine exclusive to the garden of Google products. If you compete with Google in any way, you’re in its crosshairs. Your chances of ranking high enough to garner traffic are virtually nil and getting smaller.
The scariest part of this is that, if you sell something using the internet, regardless of whether or not you see yourself as a “local" business - or think you’re competing with Google - Google sees you as competition. Searching for “Camera" or “Buy a Dress Shirt" gets you a nearly identical split of screen real estate as that of “local" searches. Nearly everything leads back to a Google product except for an ever-decreasing amount of “Organic" real estate.
It’s Google’s world, and from now on, you’ll have to pay to play in it.
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http://blog.tutorspree.com/post/54349646327/death-of-organic-search
(see attachment in previous post)
from http://boingboing.net
-mouser (July 02, 2013, 05:31 PM)
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Yes, it's a good corporate psychopath - as well as being an unofficial department of the NSA - though apparently publicly denying that that is the case (cough, cough).
So what's not to love?
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about the special feeling
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My feet on my table and a Cuban cigar
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At someone else's expense (Oh yeah)
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While people behind me are going insane
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While handicapped people make handicapped faces
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I'm an asshole (He's a real fucking asshole)
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Ranting and raving and carrying on
Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong
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Getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder
Cheese burgers from McDonald's in the old fashioned
Non-biodegradable Styrofoam containers
And when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers
I'm gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag
And then I'm gonna toss the Styrofoam container right out the side
And there ain't a goddamned thing anybody can do about it
You know why? Because we got the bombs, that's why
Two words, nuclear fucking weapons, okay?
Russia, Germany, Romania
They can have all the democracy they want
They can have a big democracy cake walk
Right through the middle of Tienanmen square
And it won't make a lick of difference
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John Wayne's not dead
He's frozen and as soon as we find the cure for cancer
We're gonna thaw out the duke and he's gonna be pretty pissed off
You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower?
Well multiple that by 15 million times
That's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be
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wrbird:
I've experienced what cyberdiva has and am now back to Google. As for TaoPhoenix's advanced search, I'm glad I'm a "computer novice" because "regular search" has worked perfectly for me. I have no need to spend my time going to the advanced search options. Thank goodness for being a novice. Between Google and Facebook (those who use Google and Facebook) there's not such thing as privacy. It's going to be interesting where we end up as a society.
Renegade:
I lost the link for an essay/article, and wanted to find it again. It *was* easy to find through Google before. Not so much now - it's gone from the results. No matter how I try, I cannot find it.
But the more interesting part is that it was subversive to the mainstay climate, and certainly not the kind of thing you'd want people reading if you want the status quo maintained.
It's just one little thing there that I noticed, but it stuck out for me. Deliberate? Who knows? But given that we know who Google is in bed with, it's certainly not unlikely.
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