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Knight to queen's bishop 3 - Snowden charged with espionage.

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Flood every Email server in Washington DC with messages from "We the People"... What say let Edward Snowden go, he's a true patriot and deserves a medal for reporting rampant corruption in our government.
-Stoic Joker (July 03, 2013, 11:49 PM)
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Something is happening today along these lines: Mass protests planned over web NSA spying revelations

Some of the web's biggest names have backed mass protests over internet surveillance carried out by the US National Security Agency (NSA).

The Restore the Fourth movement - referring to the US constitution's fourth amendment - said it wants to end "unconstitutional surveillance".

Reddit, Mozilla and Wordpress are among the big web names backing the action, due to take place on Thursday.

Almost 100 events have been planned across the US.
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Oh, how come Google and Facebook are not on that list?  ;)

More info on today's protests etc.:

Restore the Fourth FAQ

I think it went something like that.
-40hz (July 03, 2013, 07:21 AM)
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That's classic  ;D  And probably true  :(
-wraith808 (July 03, 2013, 08:12 AM)
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An alternative explanation is that they all know that they are as bad as each other...: France 'has vast data surveillance' - Le Monde report

France's foreign intelligence service intercepts computer and telephone data on a vast scale, like the controversial US Prism programme, according to the French daily Le Monde.

The data is stored on a supercomputer at the headquarters of the DGSE intelligence service, the paper says.

The operation is "outside the law, and beyond any proper supervision", Le Monde says.
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An alternative explanation is that they all know that they are as bad as each other..
-dr_andus (July 04, 2013, 12:30 PM)
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When the president Nixon visited China back in 1972, there was a great deal made of the extreme lengths China was going through to absolutely insure his safety while there.

When the question came up on the news, I remember one of the big anchormen (Cronkite? or Brinkley?) asking the reporter on the scene how security arrangements were progressing. The reporter made some comment to the effect that both China's state security agencies and the US Secret Service were cooperating closely, and that arrangements were proceeding with an amazing degree of speed and efficiency. The reporter also said that the security people from both nations seemed to hitting it off extremely well on both the personal and professional level.

That prompted the anchorman to say something along the lines of how secret services seem to have much in common and act the same - no matter which  flag they serve.

I think the same rule applies here. Government spies behave like government spies the world over. About the only thing that seems to differentiate the deeds they do in service to their masters is the size of budget given them,  and the degree to which their masters are willing to turn a blind eye towards violations of law committed under the guise of national security.

We all know that.

But we can't really "prove" it.

The NSA, however, is in the enviable position of being able to provide incontrovertible proof of exactly how - and to what degree - other nations are spying on their own citizens.

And that is not the sort of laundry any government is anxious to see aired out in public.

There's an old saying that goes: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." And it's now being said again.

This time around, however, it's not being said by anyone who's anything like that first guy... ;)

This time around, however, it's not being said by anyone who's anything like that first guy...
-40hz (July 04, 2013, 02:34 PM)
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Zing!  And +1 :)


Here's an interesting article which lists several countries that Snowden applied to for asylum. A lot of them are using a nasty trick where "you must be inside our border to apply for Asylum". (Aka haha, we'll deport you first!)


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