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MilesAhead:
@MilesAhead: No, I gather that Malathion doesn't really have a sweet enough taste to replace sugar, so sugar is still the favourite.
-IainB (December 11, 2014, 12:47 PM)
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I wasn't aware sugar kills mosquitoes. No wonder Fidel has lived so long.
MilesAhead:
Whenever you have a system that needs time and/or money to maintain optimal performance, said maintenance doesn't get done.
-40hz (December 11, 2014, 01:00 PM)
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I used to do semiannual auto inspections with emissions tests. An electronic ignition was not required. Just a clean exhaust. Distributor maintenance could just as easily have been mandated. The parts and labor are no more expensive than screwing around with the fuel mixture as was done then. Usually in minor tune-ups the expensive parts are the plugs. They didn't need to be changed on every tune-up. But the shops made their money on them and it was quick work. Every 2 years new plugs would be more than adequate.
The electronic systems added to cars was a hell of an expense just so the distributor could be ignored, other than setting the base timing, during tune-ups. You could buy a lot of points, rotors, condensors and labor for one of those Chrysler air cleaner housing computers. Not to mention the fact that "lean burn" burns up your system by running at high temperatures instead of just tuning the fuel mixture. It's kind of like amputating the horse's legs to make sure he doesn't break one.
40hz:
Not to mention the fact that "lean burn" burns up your system by running at high temperatures instead of just tuning the fuel mixture.
-MilesAhead (December 11, 2014, 04:11 PM)
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If that's the case, why do modern engines perform more reliably and last longer on average than those classic engines? And with far less major repairs? :huh:
MilesAhead:
Not to mention the fact that "lean burn" burns up your system by running at high temperatures instead of just tuning the fuel mixture.
-MilesAhead (December 11, 2014, 04:11 PM)
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If that's the case, why do modern engines perform more reliably and last longer on average than those classic engines? And with far less major repairs? :huh:
-40hz (December 11, 2014, 04:26 PM)
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Because they are not Chrysler lean burn engines is my conjecture. I'm talking about lean burn back in the day. It ran too hot just because that tended to reduce the escape of raw fuel. Kill the dog to spite the fleas technology. :)
Stoic Joker:
Not to mention the fact that "lean burn" burns up your system by running at high temperatures instead of just tuning the fuel mixture.
-MilesAhead (December 11, 2014, 04:11 PM)
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If that's the case, why do modern engines perform more reliably and last longer on average than those classic engines? And with far less major repairs? :huh:-40hz (December 11, 2014, 04:26 PM)
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That's an easy one ... They don't. An engine is an engine, the major parts are still the same. Sure, some advances have been made in the materials they are made out of...(valve seats come to mind)...but they're not always used to the best effect (Like aluminum heads..).
Only real difference is the computer now compensates for anything that happens to wander out of spec, which allows the user to remain blithely ignorant of how badly the vehicle is actually running. So when it does finally start flashing the Check Engine light...you can pretty much be guaranteed you'll be bending over to the tune of something in the $1,000 range. Mainly due to the fact that they are designed using the 10lb of shit in a 2lb bag/planned obsolescence school of engineering ... So nothing under the hood is ever easy to get to.
Not to mention that the realistic average life expectance of a modern vehicle - outside of Subaru commercials and fantasy land - is still just slightly north of 100,000 miles...just like it always was. Above that the suspension, steering, and other chassis components are going to be dangerously shot to hell regardless of how gingerly you wasted the time of everyone behind you babying the hell out of the engine.
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