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CWuestefeld:
What does it really mean for software to be "in the cloud"?

Because I don't see anything interesting in Adobe's change, in terms of software architecture. So far as I can discern, the only things that are changing are:


* Only available via download, no physical media
* Auto-update via download
* Change from a single payment perpetual license to a recurring subscription payment
* Optional online storage of data (which we already have via tumblr, etc., anyway)
So it's a minor tweak to delivery, and a fundamental change in how you pay for it.

Given that, where are the benefits to the user that are so undeniable? The *only* benefit I can see is the convenience of automatic updates, but to me that's quite minor. It doesn't make the pricing model change undeniably better, and the once actual change is something that I'm not willing to pay any extra for.

mouser:
Given that, where are the benefits to the user that are so undeniable?
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You don't expect Adobe to admit that this change is entirely about increasing their profit margin do you?  It's only fair that they make up pretend reasons why this is really being done to benefit the user.

superboyac:
What does it really mean for software to be "in the cloud"?

Because I don't see anything interesting in Adobe's change, in terms of software architecture. So far as I can discern, the only things that are changing are:


* Only available via download, no physical media
* Auto-update via download
* Change from a single payment perpetual license to a recurring subscription payment
* Optional online storage of data (which we already have via tumblr, etc., anyway)
So it's a minor tweak to delivery, and a fundamental change in how you pay for it.

Given that, where are the benefits to the user that are so undeniable? The *only* benefit I can see is the convenience of automatic updates, but to me that's quite minor. It doesn't make the pricing model change undeniably better, and the once actual change is something that I'm not willing to pay any extra for.
-CWuestefeld (May 09, 2013, 11:55 AM)
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True.  Initially, it sounded like the software would be run through the browser or something.  Especially with the talk about HTML5 and what not.  But now, it sounds like you describe, basically same local installation and a different license verification technique.  I don't see how "cloud" is being used except for license transactions.  I guess if your work files are being synced online automatically, that's also part of the cloud.  But the question is, is the actual software running online or locally?  Fully cloud, to me, means I work on photoshop within firefox.  Meaning I didn't install anything on my computer.

superboyac:
Yeah...I just looked up some videos about creative cloud.  It looks like a normal, local install of adobe stuff.  The only difference is some synchronization of your work files, digital delivery of installation files, and digital license stuff.  That's it.  very minor.  If you think about it, most of our third party tools work exactly the same way.  All the little sharewares we use don't come boxed, several offer cloud syncing services (e.g. MLO, Evernote) and licensing is verified through some online portal.

 8)

vlastimil:
Perhaps we are concentrating too much on the present. The difference between the Adobe cloud solution and the classic boxed program is not so big now, but it may increase in the future. The subscription model will actually enable Adobe to be more flexible and lower development costs.

For example, they do not need to worry too much about backward compatibility, because paying users always have the latest version. New PSD files may be saved in compatibility mode so that they can be open in older Photoshops. Since there will not be older Photoshops (that matter) in a few years, backward compatibility won't be an issue for Adobe anymore.

A cloud solution also allows Adobe to be closer to the customers. Users will not have an option to not upgrade anymore and they will be forced to learn new things (and get feedback to Adobe). This may seem like a bad thing, but it is not. A community of users, who are frozen and refuse to learn anything new, is a big obstacle of innovation and is probably holding Adobe back right now.

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