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Problems after you install Microsoft's security update 2823324
Tinman57:
I have long thought that the biggest threat to a Windows computer is not malware but MS Updates.
About a month ago I went through my three computers sorting out updates that had refused to install, in total there was well over thirty of them, two thirds on the same computer and nearly all relating to the NET Framework.
It took me seven hours altogether, much of that looking up solutions on the internet, and for the first time since the first update on my first PC there are no updates outstanding although each computer has several hidden that are not relevant for one reason or another.
My pet hate is that you keep getting notified about an update but when you go to install it you are informed that the relevant program is not installed!
Then why the ******* hell do you keep getting told you need it?
Actually in rare cases it can be therapeutic, I heard of a doctor who advised his patients with low blood pressure to buy a Windows computer.
-pilgrim (April 13, 2013, 06:47 AM)
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And OMG! I could tell you a horror story about my troubleshooting nightmares with MS Tech Support on the .net Framework fiasco. It's been haunting me for years and years, and MS STILL DOESN'T HAVE IT FIXED!!! And of all the crazy things that MS had me do in order to get the problem solved, wasted hours, wasted days of trying to fix it, and the VERY LAST thing they had me do was to remove .net Framework updates from Windows Update after they were updated, because they had no idea on how to fix it.
So every time there's a patch for .net framework, I let it update, reboot, let Windows Update tell me there is an update for it, then uncheck it from the Updater to force it not to look at that particualar update again. MS had me jumping through hoops trying to get it fixed and then resorting to this to make it stop. Simply sad..... :(
pilgrim:
Tinman,
I never had direct dealings with MS but I tried everything else I could think of over the years including completely uninstalling then reinstalling the whole .net framework, twice!
When I finally sorted it out recently I made a list of all the .net updates that I had hidden and searched online for each one using the KB numbers, as I said it took a long time but I finally tracked down solutions to all of them, much to my surprise.
40hz:
@pilgrim/T-man - um...I think you made a lot more work for yourselves than you needed to.
Microsoft has tools available to deal with NET Framework installation problems.
.NET Framework Verification Tool (download here) :huh:
The .NET Framework setup verification tool is designed to automatically perform a set of steps to verify the installation state of one or more versions of the .NET Framework on a computer. It will verify the presence of files, directories, registry keys and values for the .NET Framework. It will also verify that simple applications that use the .NET Framework can be run correctly.
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.NET Framework Repair Tool (info and download here) 8)
Overview
The .NET Framework repair tool detects frequently occurring issues with the .NET Framework setup or updates. The tool tries to resolve those issues by applying known fixes or by repairing the installed version of the .NET Framework. The tool can also be used to repair corrupted installations of supported .NET Framework versions. This includes .NET Framework 4 language packs. The tool is wizard-based and is easy to use.
The .NET Framework repair tool follows a four-step process:
* Tries to troubleshoot setup issues.
* Applies the fixes (with user consent).
* Tries to repair the installed versions of the .NET Framework (the .NET Framework 4, the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1, the .NET Framework 3.0 SP2, and the .NET Framework 2.0 SP2).
* Collects logs (with user consent).[
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And if both the above fail, there's always the absolute last resort:
.NET Framework Cleanup Tool (Download link here) >:(
This .NET Framework cleanup tool is designed to automatically perform a set of steps to remove selected versions of the .NET Framework from a computer. It will remove files, directories, registry keys and values and Windows Installer product registration information for the .NET Framework. The tool is intended primarily to return your system to a known (relatively clean) state in case you are encountering .NET Framework installation, uninstallation, repair or patching errors so that you can try to install again.
There are a couple of very important caveats that you should review before using this tool to remove any version of the .NET Framework from your system:
* This tool is designed as a last resort for cases where install, uninstall, repair or patch installation did not succeed for unusual reasons. It is not a substitute for the standard uninstall procedure. You should try the steps listed in this blog post before using this cleanup tool.
* This cleanup tool will delete shared files and registry keys used by other versions of the .NET Framework. If you run the cleanup tool, you will need to perform a repair/re-install for all other versions of the .NET Framework that are on your computer or they will not work correctly afterwards.
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If you need to run the cleanup tool, I'd recommend you download a copy of the most recent version (currently .NET Framework 4 Client Profile) of the .NET Framework installer before you remove anything. In most cases all you'll need is the most recent version of .NET since there's a good amount of backwards compatibility between versions - although there are some poorly coded programs that will insist on a specific version of .NET. If that's the case, they can always be installed later.
You can find all the .NET redistributable download links here.
Hope the above is helpful. :)
pilgrim:
@pilgrim/T-man - um...I think you made a lot more work for yourselves than you needed to.
Microsoft has tools available to deal with NET Framework installation problems.
-40hz (April 21, 2013, 07:10 AM)
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It's a pity that none of them worked!
I tried everything else I could think of over the years
-pilgrim (April 21, 2013, 02:42 AM)
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I have had all 3 of those tools for a long time, plus the Windows Install Clean Up Utility, I also have all the redistributables from v1 to v4.
My comment which I have quoted again above can, I assure you, be taken literally.
I also came across, what is for me, a .net first the other day, I downloaded a program I wanted to have a look at and when I went to run it I was informed that it required .net 4.5!
Oh joy, there's another one.
40hz:
^What can I say? Your case is unique! ;D
I've probably dealt with a few hundred issues with NET Framework over the years. And with one exception (where Windows was already borked to begin with) one or more of the above three worked the charm.
Like the old song says: YMMV. :Thmbsup:
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