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Q: Java for Safari on iPhone4?

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f0dder:
It's just a memory-leak-rich framework lazy developers use when they don't want to make a proper port but want to claim they support n platforms.-eleman (January 12, 2013, 06:10 AM)
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*grin* - slightly prejudiced there, are we?

As much as I hate Java-in-the-browser, it's a decent enough language for other things (wouldn't use it for desktop stuff, but server-side it's great) - and while the Java language is merely "decent-enough", the JVM+frameworks are a great resource, and there's some really fine languages running on the JVM platform (Scala comes to mind).

Anyway, Curt, there's no chance in hell you'll get Javastuff running on an iPhone that isn't rooted, just like you're not seeing Flash there. Apple lovers will claim it's because the benevolent Steve Jobs wouldn't let these Evil, Insecure and and Battery-Sucking technologies in (oh, and they are all that), while in fact it's at least as much to do with those two platforms being a MAJOR threat against the AppStore model. At any rate, you won't be seeing NemID support on the iPhone. Your bank might have a non-NemID app, but that's it.

Also, while you're at it, be sure be fscking careful with Java in your browser. Please read this thread.

DO NOT BROWSE THE WEB WITH NEITHER FLASH NOR THE JAVA PLUGINS ENABLED!

Curt:
I enjoy the benefits of having my Java plugins enabled, and have not yet been given any valid reason why they shouldn't be. And Yes, I've read the linked page(s), but I don't trust people who mistakes a cracker for a nuclear bomb. Secondly, the question in mind was her iPhone, not my PC.

But I thank you all for telling your thoughts on the matter.  :up:

f0dder:
I enjoy the benefits of having my Java plugins enabled, and have not yet been given any valid reason why they shouldn't be.-Curt (January 12, 2013, 05:52 PM)
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Hasn't there been plenty of good reasons given the last few months as to why you should disable you Java browser plugin? Keep in mind that you will not see any popups or warning signs if you get hit by a drive-by exploit, and this kind of thing doesn't just happen for people who are browsing for porn or pirated software - all it takes is one exploited banner server.

And what "benefit" do you get from the Java plugin? Apart from NemID, the only thing I can think of that "normal" people need Java for is a few gaming sites, like KomOgVind. If you need that, it's not exactly hard to launch a secondary browser for that specific site - or at least using Chrome for your primary browser, and enabling plugin ClickToPlay.

tomos:
Keep in mind that you will not see any popups or warning signs if you get hit by a drive-by exploit, and this kind of thing doesn't just happen for people who are browsing for porn or pirated software - all it takes is one exploited banner server.
-f0dder (January 12, 2013, 07:06 PM)
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I have my brother-in-law's laptop on the floor here. It is totally incapacitated in spite of an antivirus/security system with one of the best reputations around. He has no recovery disk, and knows very little about computers (which is why it's on *my* floor). Oh yeah, he's self employed and there's lots of important files on it that aren't backed up.
Caused via a popup :(

To be honest I wouldnt have taken the whole java thing so seriously before seeing that today.

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