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A month with my Surface RT

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anandcoral:
Desktop screen is a different topic really (i.e. -no offence intended- but seeing as it's so hard to keep win8 threads ontopic I would suggest it for another thread).
-tomos (November 27, 2012, 09:08 AM)
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Right. Me too will not stretch my hand from keyboard to desktop, in fact I am a keyboard junky and reach for the mouse only in rare case.

Let us hear from users who are using or tried a tablet+keyboard combination and not go in wrong direction of negative scenario.

When I use the laptop at office to demonstrate my program to users, many a times I touch the screen with my finger to point the area I am referring to. Imagine if I could even fire the event from it, I would not have to fiddle with the touch pad now and then.

Regards,

Anand

dr_andus:
When I use the laptop at office to demonstrate my program to users, many a times I touch the screen with my finger to point the area I am referring to. Imagine if I could even fire the event from it, I would not have to fiddle with the touch pad now and then.
-anandcoral (November 27, 2012, 10:33 AM)
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Sure, for laptops Win8 makes more sense (especially as a demonstration and sales tool, as you suggest), as the keyboard is a lot more crammed and closer to the screen.

So it seems to me that a divide is opening up between desktop users on the one hand, and tablet and laptop users on the other hand (pun unintended), as far as Win8's suitability/usability and MS's share of (future) attention is concerned.

wraith808:
in fact I am a keyboard junky and reach for the mouse only in rare case.
-anandcoral (November 27, 2012, 10:33 AM)
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It is this very reason that I think that I wouldn't mind a touch screen.  Especially on laptops where the touch pad gets in the way so much!  No mouse to pack, no pointer to move out of the way.  The only thing I use my mouse for is to traverse screens from one computer to another (and I really need to set up the kb shortcuts for that), gaming, and websites that aren't kb friendly.

tomos:
thought I'd cross-post this from the "Are you going to wait for Windows 9?" thread, as it's mainly about the Surface:

I hope MS will be still around to launch Win9 because at the moment things are not looking good. Some of their strategies seem decidedly amateurish. Take for example the advertising that focuses on the fact that Surface comes with a kickstand. Seriously? That's the most important thing about it?? And who came up with that amazing name, "Surface"?

Then take the ever-increasing options for the consumer. Do I buy Win8 or WinRT, Metro, or Win8 Pro? Do I need a keyboard for an extra $100 or not? Do I buy an MS manufactured device or one from another manufacturer? Which chipset is better, ARM or Intel? Can I run my Win7 software on the Surface or not? And why should I pay $200-300 more for this than the alternatives (incl. laptops)?

Confused customers don't buy. It's just so much simpler to go for the latest iPad and not have to deal with any of this nonsense.

Take e.g. this:
The 64GB Windows 8 Pro running Intel will be priced $899 and excludes the touch cover, which retails for around $100.

Compare that to the 64GB iPad from Apple, which is priced at $699. The Android-powered 64GB Samsung Galaxy Tab, meanwhile, comes in at around $889, no keypad required.

The problem for Microsoft here is that the keypad is essential on the Windows 8 Pro edition, because – as Microsoft points out in the supporting blog – Windows 8 Pro will run your existing Windows 7 apps, and those apps won’t be built for touch.
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This is not MS-bashing on my part. I genuinely want them to succeed because I've invested into this relationship and I love my software on Win7. But this is increasingly looking desperate. Ballmer has looked like a disaster for quite some time. There must be something seriously wrong with their internal processes if they are not able to bring in more talented managers than the current ones who are confusing customers.
-dr_andus (December 01, 2012, 02:35 PM)
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wraith808:
I played around with the surface for a while at Best Buy today while I was waiting around.  It's actually very compelling, until you have to go to the desktop.  Then it becomes frustrating.  Of course, I didn't have a keyboard nor mouse.  But the classic desktop very much takes you out of the tablet world.  I still think that hybridizing isn't the problem- it's presentation.  If you get a WinRT you should be in the tablet interface- and everything should be there.  If you're getting a desktop/laptop, it should be the same for the classic desktop.  Have the option- sure.  But there should be a definite divide.  Then the Surface Pro could bridge the gap for those that actually want to go that way.  This sitting on the fence thing isn't good for anyone, IMO.

And the price... that's another sticking point.  Especially if half of the available space on it is going to come pre-filled.

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