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Open source cell phone projects.
40hz:
At least there's no FCC to stop me from playing piano, I suppose.
-superboyac (September 19, 2012, 01:18 PM)
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Nope. But there is the RIAA. (Depending on what you're playing.) ;D
superboyac:
What about MIT? Why do they bother experimenting with the cell technology in the way I describe? They're not doing anything new...the cell companies already have done the research and have figured anything out. So MIT research is not helping them...and they're not allowed to use it, so what is the point?
Look <this is addressed to nobody, maybe the country in general>...I don't want to do what I'm currently doing in my career forever. I see opportunities for myself doing other shit like this. I have the skills, energy, capability to work with the technology and improve it for everyone. Why am I not allowed to do this?? I am bored and wasted doing the things that people are asking me to do. It's not hard for me, it's not interesting, yes I get paid well, but I don't care for it. Why was everyone so encouraging when I was in school learning everything, proud of my abilities, bragging about my accomplishments, about my potential...but now whenever I actually try to implement my ideas which are a result of all that education and encouragement, the same people are fighting tooth and nail to keep me rooted to this stagnant position? Why is there so much fear? If I don't push myself, all anybody wants from me is to write a few emails and fill out some forms. I didn't need to learn quantum physics for this. I mean, I'm being pushed to the point where the only thing that I can do that is enjoyable for me and acceptable to others is play the piano. Which is fine. But I spent 20+ years formally getting educated as a scientist. In 10 years of working, nobody has asked me to help them figure anything out. So I took it upon myself to come up with projects that will put to use what I was trained to do. And whenever I do, seems like people will aggressively fight to make sure I can't move forward with it. There isn't even the slightest curiosity present as to these ideas or projects. Just dismissed outright.
You know, I was very happy as a kid wandering about and observing the world. Drawing, reading. Then everyone asked me to perform and to get formally educated. So I did. And I did very well, better than just about everyone around me according to the rubrics and grading systems. It felt good. I didn't feel like I sacrificed the drawing and what not for it. And now I'm a seasoned professional. I know how to balance the idealism of a student with the practicality of the real world. I know how to get shit done. And now nobody wants it?! I'm bothering them now?! People are scared of me? Think I'm anti-social? I meet more people and talk to more people than all the ones calling me anti-social! This is what they dragged me out of drawing for? I ALWAYS feel like I've been duped.
40hz:
So what we're ultimately saying is, don't even bother. There's not point trying to come up with a way to create a local cell network, however easy or hard that is to do, because it is illegal. So don't play with cell technology, don't try to create a custom cell phone. Why should I learn all that stuff and experiment with it if I'm not allowed to use it?
-superboyac (September 19, 2012, 01:18 PM)
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Not so much that as know what you're getting into. And don't be surprised or get upset if some people (some of whom have legal clout behind them) start putting as many obstacles in your path as possible. You're talking about playing in an area of tech that's highly regulated.
But so is power generation, aircraft engineering, and a bunch of other things. That still didn't stop people from finding ways to legally generate their own power, design and fly their on aircraft, or generally following their own weird.
I guess what I'm saying (in too many words) is: It's not so much a technology issue, as it is a people issue.
The technical considerations for doing you own cell network are nowhere near as formidable as an entrenched industry (and somewhat justifiably worried group of regulators) who are concerned you may do something that causes service problems for the existing cellphone system - or jeopardizes a lucrative business model.
That's the real challenge for indy cellphone projects. Getting around the way things are as far as the players are concerned. :huh:
40hz:
What about MIT? Why do they bother experimenting with the cell technology in the way I describe? They're not doing anything new...the cell companies already have done the research and have figured anything out. So MIT research is not helping them...and they're not allowed to use it, so what is the point?
-superboyac (September 19, 2012, 01:34 PM)
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MIT patents most everything they come up with. They never willingly relinquish title to IP. Licensing is a very lucrative business for MIT. And many other universities as well.
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And it will become even more profitable in the near future when the US joins the rest of the world in the "first to file" rather than the "first to invent" rule when it comes to awarding patents.
superboyac:
these first to file vs first to invent really worries me. If this is a legit concern for someone like myself, I'm going to just ask one of my entrepreneur friends to focus on those issues while I work on the actual project. because I don't think I have the ability to do the work AND make sure all my eyes are dotted at the same time, while being effective at both.
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