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adamc:
Understood. But what I was more interested in was the functional limits for the program. I worry because even though a database may not have a limit in theory, it must have one in reality. Usually it's a limitation of the underlying 'engine' rather than the amount of RAM these days.
-40hz (September 12, 2012, 10:37 AM)
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Gotcha... Each note is stored as a regular HTML file on your hard drive, and each drawing within that note is stored as a separate SVG file (unless you have encryption enabled, in which all notes are stored in a single file with a 140 terabyte limit). SilverNote also indexes the contents of your notes for searching purposes in a file with a 140 terabyte limit. Also, when you open a note, the entire note is loaded into memory - so the maximum size of an individual note will be limited more by how long you're willing to wait for it to load versus file size limits.

adamc:
No, I don't want that option.
-Curt (September 12, 2012, 11:08 AM)
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Whew, I hate auto-starting programs  :)

40hz:
@adamc - Thx! That answered my question. Appreciate the quick reply too. 8)

TaoPhoenix:
40hz - There is an 80 notes per notebook limit with the free version and no limit with the premium version (and there's no limit on the number of notebooks with either version). The largest notebook that I routinely use has just over 2,000 notes (average about 2-3 pages each).
-adamc (September 12, 2012, 10:11 AM)
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From my view, I feel that 80 notes per notebook is a little short, it starts to get into that range of feeling deliberately crippled to nudge the Pro version. I feel more that the Pro version should be about high end features that are qualitatively different. It might feel like a lot, but I'd even suggest 1000 notes per notebook. The reason is that if a user is going to get one of these notebook apps, he shouldn't get better results just jamming text files into a folder. (Which is how I feel about the 80 count limit.)

TaoPhoenix:
TaoPhoenix - it's nice to hear from someone who likes tree-style organization. I've experimented with it a bit, but just haven't been able to come up with something that feels worth the large chunk of screen real estate it takes-up... I'm curious if there's any particular way you would envision it appearing in SilverNote? (Also, thanks for pointing out the "My Documents" issue - that is now fixed.)
-adamc (September 12, 2012, 10:11 AM)
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I did a survey of these kinds of apps a few months ago, and looked at about seven-ish. My individual winner was TreeDB Pro. Here's a snapshot of the user interface. I wouldn't call it a "Large amount of screen space" - the trick is that it's moveable, so you slide the panel back and forth (or just use short node names.)

But for me the Killer App was that you could export the entire tree into a web tree with automatic links (which almost made sense.) (My runner up entry TreePad could sorta do it, but it lost out both from aging code, and that it felt like the "encrypted links" were creating lock-in.)  Take a look at this "running notebook" of mine:

http://www.freevoteusa.com/

I can edit 100 notes to my heart's content, and "12 clicks later" re-upload the entire site globally. No more fiddling with single file names and hand-linking stuff.

So what we have here is a case of "how exhausting is it for a single dev to do all the stuff I like"? Although my memory is fading, TreePad had features I liked that aren't in this program, so it became like a Supreme Court 5-4 decision that made this program my "winner".

P.S. That Export was the "Killer App" feature from the Pro edition that won the entire contest, that's what I mean by Pro should be about Power Users, not just arbitrary limitations.

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