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nudone:
I like the look of AMPPS, well, I like the convenience it offers when setting things up - but I also don't like it for the same reason. Without the time I've spent messing about with X/Wamp/p I'd not know where to look when needing to see what is really going on underneath AMPPS easy configuration system. I tend to set up "clones" of live sites on my local machine so knowing where things really are helps - also, not a big thing perhaps, but WAMP's system tray icon displays different colours per server state - which is very helpful when you are constantly turning things on/off.

In this quick test I've just done, AMPPS didn't have the latest version of Silverstripe - as justice mentioned above.

I've now got Silverstripe running perfectly well now within Wamp - the previous cock-up was because I'd not entered an admin login email address during installation - so I couldn't figure out how to login, duh!

So, I'm working my way through the basic tutorial now.

nudone:
Okay, quick update. I don't think I'll be going much futher with Silverstripe. I really do like the look of the admin backend but I don't see enough features readily accessible now that I've had a closer look. CMS Made Simple's backend interface is one of the ugliest things I've seen but it does give me a better set of functions/options to play with. Wordpress (with CMS plugins installed) is kinda ugly too - they could learn a lot from the Silverstripe layout.

I do note that Silverstripe might be more of a specialist system; the "Dataoject Relationship Management" I saw in the tutorial isn't something I've encountered before. I can see that being of great benefit to some people - though, I guess there might be other CMSs and plugins available out there that might be even better.

40hz:
If it's any consolation, I have yet to find any CMS that does what I want it to do the way I want it done. And I must have evaluated all of them by now.

But if I ever do decide to use one, I'll probably opt for one of the two most popular - either Joomla or Wordpress. Most likely Wordpress all factors considered.

The alternative is  learning a framework. And life is far to short to get into one of those unless (a) you have truly unique website requirements (b) you do this stuff for a living, or (c) this stuff is a burning passion for you. Because if you just want to do up a nice website, any of the 'majors' will serve equally well.

Or so it seems to me.

Onward! :Thmbsup:

nudone:
I agree. Wordpress tends to be the way to go, even if it doesn't really seem right. I do actually do this for a living and don't have the time to learn new frameworks (or even existing ones). Clients have heard of "WordPress" and like the idea of having their website built around it; which is often amusing when they realise the plugins required for thier website to function, how they really wanted, is beyond what they care to learn how to use.

WordPress just needs a few little built-in CMS style additions and I'd never even think about using anything else (the available plugins are fine, it's just a worrying when there are so many updates and possible conflicts, though, that doesn't seem much of a problem so far).

As for Joomla, had to spend a lot of time with it and the Fabrik database module. Probably, the most stressful experience I've ever had (overal several months). Truth is, someone else should have taken over and created a custom system from scratch - but the client didn't have anywhere near the budget for that - and I couldn't say no at the time. So, to avoid panic attacks and depression, I don't want to touch Joomla ever again.

40hz:
So, to avoid panic attacks and depression, I don't want to touch Joomla ever again.
-nudone (July 21, 2012, 09:27 AM)
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Aw c'mon. Joomla's only trying to kill the unwary. I'm told it doesn't hurt a bit. :P

On a more serious note, I agree. Joomla (like other CMS systems) works best when you use it the way it was intended and don't try to push it too far beyond that. Otherwise you end up with a crow's nest like phpNuke - which can do almost everything - but nothing particularly well except breaking more often than most. At least from my experience with it.

The funny thing is, the more I work with Wordpress, the more I find myself liking it. It's not great. And some of what passes for its internal "design" can set your hair on end. But of all the choices out there, Wordpress seems to hit that elusive sweet spot best. And it's adoption rate shows that.

Sometimes good 'nuf is as good as it gets. :P

Especially when it comes to webapps. :-\

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