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Arrested and Convicted for Tweeting in the UK!!!
4wd:
I simply see vulgarity where you see obscenity. -Renegade (April 17, 2012, 11:31 PM)
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Not quite, I don't see anything as either vulgar or obscene - I don't care enough to regard something as anything more than what it is. I'll quite happily use four letter words all day long but as soon as I hit public spaces the curse gland automatically turns off due to self-preservation instinct ;D
All I was doing was presenting a different spin on events, ie. trying to see things as though from a different point of view rather than the one presented. Something that had little to do with supposed political skulduggery.
AFAIAC, he was just plain stupid to phrase a statement like that in a public arena.
Carol Haynes:
Not for the faint hearted or terribly sensitiveI find it totally hilarious that anyone thinks CUNT is any more or less offensive than the word VULVA!
There is a feminist movement now to reclaim words like cunt. In fact there was whole BBC programme about it a couple of years ago.
One question: why are terms like cunt and twat considered more offensive than balls, tosser or bollocks ?
In fact I really find it strange that people get so preoccupied with 'bad words'.
I have never used Twitter (can't really see the point) but I am now tempted to open an account and start tweeting about politicians. Anyone want to join me? Maybe we could start a global 'abuse a politician' day.
By the way good book to read:
"Filthy English - The How, Why, When and What of Everyday Swearing" by Peter Silverton. US Link.
It is cheered up bay a lovely book cover.
Or for people with a short attention span how about: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Coloring-Corinne-Author-Paperback-01-Jun-2003/dp/B005O7G6N4
That can be my rant for the day - I feel better now!
P.S. please take any daily mail article with a nice pinch of salt!
-Redhat (April 17, 2012, 02:20 PM)
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+1 :Thmbsup: (The Daily Mail is known to be written by whole load of lying c**ts and w***ers.)
Renegade:
I simply see vulgarity where you see obscenity. -Renegade (April 17, 2012, 11:31 PM)
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Not quite, I don't see anything as either vulgar or obscene - I don't care enough to regard something as anything more than what it is. I'll quite happily use four letter words all day long but as soon as I hit public spaces the curse gland automatically turns off due to self-preservation instinct ;D
All I was doing was presenting a different spin on events, ie. trying to see things as though from a different point of view rather than the one presented. Something that had little to do with supposed political skulduggery.
AFAIAC, he was just plain stupid to phrase a statement like that in a public arena.
-4wd (April 18, 2012, 03:03 AM)
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Ah - sorry. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. My mouth can be pretty filthy, so that would just be icky~! :P ;D
P.S. please take any daily mail article with a nice pinch of salt!
-Redhat (April 17, 2012, 02:20 PM)
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+1 :Thmbsup: (The Daily Mail is known to be written by whole load of lying c**ts and w***ers.)
-Carol Haynes (April 18, 2012, 03:12 AM)
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I've seen some twisted stuff in the Daily Mail, but I never read it until the last few months, so I'm not really sure I can comment on it other than to ask questions.
Have they been caught in many lies? (I suppose that's a bit of a stupid question -- which ones haven't?) Or are they all that much worse than the others, e.g. Guardian, Huffington Post, BBC, NYT, Washington Post, CNN, Fox, etc.?
Carol Haynes:
The Daily Mail is very tabloid and very right wing biased (almost fascist in its attitudes) - you can't really take seriously any of their 'journalism'.
Think of it as a comic for people who can actually read, if you can't read then you probably just about cope with the Sun.
No comparison with the Guardian or BBC. Can't really comment on the US publications (though I gather Fox News doesn't have the greatest reputation for integrity).
To add to the dabate here is another Twitter Jail Sentence:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/27/student-jailed-fabrice-muamba-tweets?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038
Renegade:
The Daily Mail is very tabloid and very right wing biased (almost fascist in its attitudes) - you can't really take seriously any of their 'journalism'.
Think of it as a comic for people who can actually read, if you can't read then you probably just about cope with the Sun.
No comparison with the Guardian or BBC. Can't really comment on the US publications (though I gather Fox News doesn't have the greatest reputation for integrity).
-Carol Haynes (April 18, 2012, 04:17 AM)
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I just about vomit any time I read the news now anyways. I've learned to basically reverse whatever they say, then that's probably closer to the truth. :P It's my "double-speak" filter.
I downloaded the Fox news app for my tablet... Oh god... It just about burned my eyes out. Did the same for CNN and suffered. The BBC is much better, but still stings. :D
To add to the dabate here is another Twitter Jail Sentence:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/27/student-jailed-fabrice-muamba-tweets?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038
-Carol Haynes (April 18, 2012, 04:17 AM)
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It... just... doesn't... stop...
I really don't care what people spout. They can spout all the trash they want. But making it criminal? I just can't get on board...
"I have no choice but to impose an immediate custodial sentence to reflect the public outrage at what you have done. "You committed this offence while you were drunk and it is clear you immediately regretted it. But you must learn how to handle your alcohol better."
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I did find that a bit funny though~! ;D
(Too bad the Guardian doesn't know how to use quote properly...)
, chief crown prosecutor for CPS Cymru-Wales, said: "Racist language is inappropriate in any setting and through any media. We hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law."
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(It's also too bad that they don't know how to start a sentence, or how to use commas properly... But enough of picking away at the inability of the press to write fluently in their own language... That... is another rant...)
While racism may be sickening, it is no less sickening that some neo-fascist, politically correct <insert vulgarity of choice here /> think that they can police people's thoughts and speech. "Serve as a warning to anyone..." Oh please. Self-righteous indignation is for feeble minds that can't articulate a coherent argument to prop up their religious <insert another vulgarity here />.
However:
Racist language is inappropriate in any setting and through any media.
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Yes! Certainly! It *IS* disgusting, inappropriate, and feel free to insert as many vulgarities here as you will...
However, it isn't a crime.
Being an idiot isn't a crime.
Just because something is "immoral" or "naughty" doesn't mean that it must be "illegal" or punishable.
What's next? Throw 6-year olds in handcuffs and drag them down to the police station for throwing a temper tantrum? Ooops... We're already there...
Like seriously... Who are these pathetic cry babies that get so upset over some idiot spouting garbage?
The swiftness of the arrest demonstrates how seriously police are taking the posting of potentially criminal comments on social networking sites by so-called trolls.
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Just got 2 words...
NSFWFucking lame.
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