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O&O Migration Kit for Windows 7

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Curt:
-no, IainB, not the wrong way, but the only possible way:


* Windows 7 ("Windows Transfer Wizard") only supports In-Place migrations from identical editions (e.g. from Windows Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 Home). Both must be in the same language and both either 32 or 64-Bit. Migration between different editions is not supported (e.g. from Windows Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 Professional)
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-O&O is for all the other combinations... say, from my old 32-bits XP Home > to my new 64-bits Win7ProOrSomething (when am I going to get it?).

IainB:
@Curt:
"...not the wrong way, but the only possible way..."
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Oops. But I migrated from XP to Win7 (64-bit). - using WTW.
From what you said, I'm not supposed to be able to do that.
However, in my defence, I do recall taking the trouble to read the destructions before using the thing, and it seemed that it was well within its design parameters to do that.

In any event, it obviated the need for me to purchase either the O&O or the LapLink migration tool - which I had been on the point of buying.

Carol Haynes:
@Carol Haynes:
"Am I correct in reading the O&O site to say that it will migrate applications as well as data - in which case the Windows Transfer Wizard doesn't do that."

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That's odd, I used the Windows Transfer Wizard to transfer all the applications and their relevant data holas bolas. It worked very well for me. Maybe I used it the "wrong way"?

I did not know the WTW existed and only stumbled upon it by accident just as I was debating with myself whether to buy the O&O migration tool or the Laplink migration tool. WTW saved me some money and did a great job. I don't usually sing Micro$oft's praises, but I'd like to give credit where credit is due. (I've been very impressed with pretty much all of Windows7 so far.)
-IainB (March 04, 2011, 08:39 PM)
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Well that isn't what Microsoft says:

Quote from Microsoft Download

This software installs Windows Easy Transfer on a computer running the 32-bit version of Windows XP so you can copy your files, photos, music, e-mail, settings, and more to a computer running Windows 7.

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It doesn't say it transfers programs - only program settings. You need to reinstall the programs in Windows 7. That was my understanding and has certainly been the way WTW has worked in other versions in WinXP.

Having not tried either method the O&O method seems to imply that the upgrade process maintains everything - including installed apps - just like upgrading from Windows Vista to the same edition of 7.

By the way you can do an in place upgrade from Windows Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate with just a Windows installation disk (but not 32 to 64 bit). The trick requires one file on the installation disk to be edited to unlock all editions - then when you boot from an unlocked copy you can do the following:

Windows Vista HP --- Ugrade --> Windows 7 HP (but don't enter the product key during upgrade)
Windows 7 HP -- Anytime Upgrade --> Pro or Ult (now you use the key)

If you can find a copy of Vista on disk (planty of places to download and burn these) you can upgrade from XP to 7 (again within architecture limits):

Win XP --> Vista HP/Pro/Ult (upgrade without key)
Win Vista --> same ed. Win 7 (upgrade with key)

I tried this and it worked on my laptop.

Two last comments:

1) As I understand it WTW is not an upgrade path - it is just a simple way to copy files and settings from one computer to another and doesn't do any form of 'upgrade'. You still have to do a clean install of Windows 7 and install all your apps again.
2) Any form of upgrade is not a brilliant idea - it just moves any exisiting problems and quirks to the new OS with unpredictable results. I have learned this lesson in the past to my cost.

FWIW my advice is to do a clean install and manually copy data files from the old hard disk (sorting and chucking as you go) then reinstall software and rewset 6the settings as you want manually. I don't know about other people's computers but my Win XP setup (that I am in the process of upgrading to 7-Pro-64) was full of rubbish and duplicates plus loads of software that either won't work with 7 or I haven't used in years. What is the point of upgrading and taking all the crap (both in terms of files and pointless registry bloat) to the new setup. I only plan to install things I am going to use on the new box so I want to keep it as lean as I can (despite having huge numbers of applications installed!).

FWIW I used Paragon's Virtualization Manager Pro to make a complete VM Of my old system and can still use it perfectly in VMWare if I need to check settings etc.

IainB:
@Carol Haynes:
What an impressive post!       :Thmbsup:
Only odd thing is:
"It doesn't say it transfers programs."
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It apparently doesn't say that it doesn't transfer programs either. I used it to transfer programs. Just pointed the thing at the program folders I wanted to transfer, and Bob's yer uncle - worked a treat. Some of the transferred proggies fired up initially with a bit of difficulty on the Win7 (64) platform, but, after a bit of adjustment to their properties, thereafter ran OK. Some didn't play nicely in the new OS so I reinstalled them and that usually seemed to fix things. One or two wouldn't work at all in the new OS, but these did not surprise me.
Maybe I was using it "the wrong way" after all, but I dun't kno ani beter.
Oh dear what a pity never mind.

Carol Haynes:
I suspect you have been lucky and that you have transferred programs that don't require registry entries or files store in common folders.

Here is Microsoft's Tutorial for using WET Wizard. (Interesting acronym - wet ?)

To quote the relevant bit on step 2:


* Windows Easy Transfer doesn't move your programs, only your files and settings. You'll need to reinstall your programs by hand after Windows 7 installation is complete. Windows Easy Transfer will provide you with a list of programs that you are currently using with Windows XP.
* Don't use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard in Windows XP to move your files. It isn't compatible with Windows 7, and if you use it, you won't be able to restore your files in Windows 7. Use Windows Easy Transfer instead.
* Windows Easy Transfer can't transfer files from a 64-bit version of Windows to a 32-bit version of Windows. If you're running a 64-bit version of Windows XP, but you plan to install a 32-bit version of Windows 7, you'll need to copy your files manually to an external location before installing Windows 7, and then move them back after Windows installation is completed.
* Windows Easy Transfer moves your music and video files, but doesn't migrate the licenses for content protected by digital rights management (DRM). This means that you'll need to re-obtain rights to DRM‑protected files from the online store that provided them after you finish installing Windows 7 and restoring these files to your computer. For more information, see Step 4: Moving your files and settings back to your computer.
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I haven't quoted this for one upmanship but because these threads are indexed in search engines and it needs to be clear that WET is not designed to transfer applications. It may work in certain circumstances but it may also cause some unitended consequences in your Win 7 install too if it starts replacing 64-bit DLL files with 32-bit ones!

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