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Shortcomings of DC and How to Improve
wraith808:
We were discussing here and here the idea of doing a special new-app-per-day or new-minireview-per-day event during the month of March to celebrate the fundraiser.
What I thought would make a little more sense and be a little more manageable and easy to convey is the new idea, SOMETHING-NEW-EACH-DAY of the fundraiser.
So the goal will be to each day have something new, either a new app, coding snack, mini-review, giveaway, screencast, software update, etc.
So we have 31 days to fill, and maybe we can actually try to build a little calendar here to try to get people to help volunteer for days, and i will work to fill in when no one steps up.
-mouser (February 27, 2011, 08:59 PM)
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Note the bolded part. And what's this we thing? Have you pledged something under your other name? I don't think I've seen you pledge...
lotusrootstarch:
wraith808: move on.
I know some members here are saying "why should we change for the sake of change?", now I say if we are to host an event only to strain our resources/enthusiasm to the point that we need to post this as something new -- why did we do such an event in the first place, just for the sake of hosting an event?
wraith808:
wraith808: move on.
I know some members here are saying "why should we change for the sake of change?", now I say if we are to host an event only to strain our resources/enthusiasm to the point that we need to post this as something new -- why did we do such an event in the first place, just for the sake of hosting an event?
-lotusrootstarch (March 07, 2011, 07:46 PM)
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Why do you say move on? Why are you so unwilling to answer anything posed to you, but continue to level the exact same arguments over and over. Changes won't happen overnight, nor for the sake of change. But still you continue to pick... why don't you take the same advice?
Mouser has already said why we had the event. NPR and other organizations that have expenses and depend on the largesse of those that use the services do a lot *less*. You have the event for the sake of supporting the infrastructure already in place, and not for any other reason. You don't ask for donations in exchange for anything. Donations are given as people see the value of the service in question. To do otherwise is to imply that you are exchanging services for money, and that's not what Donation Coder is about as I've seen.
lotusrootstarch:
wraith808:
If you honestly feel right about the lack of progress over 6 years, posting maintenance as something new (new as in refreshingly or innovatively new, as defined by most normal people) during a publicly advertised fundraiser event such as this, then as I said I have no issues with you and am not bound to answer any of your questions -- we live in the different worlds and there should not have been such exchanges.
wraith808:
wraith808:
If you honestly feel right about the lack of progress over 6 years, posting maintenance as something new (new as in refreshingly or innovatively new, as defined by most normal people) during a publicly advertised fundraiser event such as this, then as I said I have no issues with you and am not bound to answer any of your questions -- we live in the different worlds and there should not have been such exchanges.
-lotusrootstarch (March 07, 2011, 08:18 PM)
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You continue to do that. If I don't agree with you then I am a hidebound fanboy. That's a black and white I cannot abide. There are things that could be updated, and improvements that could be made. That is the nature of life- nothing is perfect. There always needs to be change. But you do not throw out what is right blindly for the sake of change- that is as bad as (or worse than) stagnation. There is also the bald reality that merely keeping such a site going has costs. That's what this fundraiser is about.
But we do live in the same world- the world of DonationCoder. And as a part of the community, such conversations are my concern, because I am concerned about the site. If you only want to talk to mouser, PM him. If you want to have a public discourse, then you have to deal with the questions that come of it. I don't want to see this site brought down as so many have been by sock puppets who are unwilling to have reasoned, rational, respectful conversations and be held accountable for their words and actions- as you've said the purpose of this s/n is. Words and actions without repercussions lead to a sense that you don't have to respect the others around you, nor their opinions. It also leads to the downfall of community as that sense of belonging disappears in the face of righteous battles that are really over nothing, as the most important part of any community is the members of the community, not the features of its site.
You've inferred that I was naive before, when I talked about going to Mouser or a mod about your problem with getting banned. And perhaps, in your eyes I was. But I have faith (as far as this site goes) in the people that I've had discourse with over the past few years. And that is the reason that any problems that I have had, I've brought out openly- because such difference and discussions help to build the strength of the community. To place the onus for any words on another identity is to dodge this, to the detriment of all involved.
You've had some good points, some not so clear points, and some offbase (IMO) points. But a lot of this has been obscured by the the manner in which things were brought forth. It shouldn't be about that, but it's all irrevocably intertwined. So your methods and your tone are obscuring your message in the minds of many people that you're attempting to talk to- many of the people who would help to implement the suggestions. So perhaps the focus shouldn't be so much on the message, but on the people?
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