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Another reason to drop Kaspersky?
tranglos:
I do not understand those who buy peace/security packages and then later complain and ask WHY? 1 advice. Keep Kaspersky running but install Virtualbox/VMware Player. Go nuts on your shady sites, by which I assume you mean download sites, and then evaluate what is needed for "protection". You need to get some facts on real life problems which are easier to understand and deal with than trying to understand lingo from X or Y product. KISS principle is great for security.
-Bamse (September 24, 2010, 08:06 AM)
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Um, no shady sites for me, thanks. I do love to try out software, but I bail out at the smallest suspicion. (Of course there have been cases where known, trusted software brands distributed infected installation packages, which is why I'd say that "shady sites" are quite beside the point.)
In my case I receive my daily work as attachments (Word, Excel, PDF, Access, some specialized formats), and I can't exactly run all this in a virtual machine nor would I want to. Then I sometimes take my pendrive to a printing shop (they are *all* infected, no exceptions) or plug it into a friend's computer. So these are the two major attack vectors for me, practically the only two.
Given that scenario, a real-time scanner puts a needless strain on my system, where an on-demand scanner would work just fine. But even the real-time engine is only one of many components of AV solutions like Kaspersky. Most of them give more annoyance than they're worth, but these days you can't buy an on-demand only AV, they just don't seem to exist any more.
BTW, Kaspersky's behavioral analysis flags Find and Run Robot when it starts. FARR stays just below the total prohibition threshhold, so KAV allows it to run, but displays a warning message. That was when I disabled all the behavioral and heuristic components. My annual KAV license expires today, I won't be renewing.
superboyac:
My annual KAV license expires today, I won't be renewing.
-tranglos (September 24, 2010, 11:56 AM)
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So what will you be doing? I'm very interested in practical solutions. I'm not that interested in this KISS stuff, which comes off as sounding a little holier than thou, and really doesn't help me find a solution to this problem.
Look, I keep having to say this: I use my computer as safely as i can stomach. But I do bad things also, whether knowingly or unknowingly. The point is this: I DON'T WANT TO WORRY ABOUT IT. Other people use my computers. I don't like telling them to be careful with this and be careful with that. I want them free to do whatever they need to do. So I want my computer protected from our badness. I'm operating under the assumption that bad things will happen. So i want solutions that can either prevent the bad things, or even if bad things happen, it can be cleaned up relatively painlessly.
It doesn't seem like I'm hearing about any practical solutions here. I may just start experimenting with stuff and see what happens. Maybe I'll turn off ALL of my kaspersky components, and then try each one out one by one and see what affects performance the most, and what is effective in protection or not. My licenses still have almost 3 years on them. However, I would drop it real quick if something better came up.
Tranglos, please keep us informed on how you are going to replace kaspersky.
CWuestefeld:
Keep Kaspersky running but install Virtualbox/VMware Player.
-Bamse (September 24, 2010, 08:06 AM)
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One comment in defense of Kaspersky. I just upgraded my KIS to the 2011 version. They've got a neat new feature so you don't have to do that.
In last year's version there was a setting so that you could have specific applications run inside a sandbox. In the new version this is extended, so that you can open a whole sandboxed desktop. This accomplishes the same thing that running in a VM would, but is much faster and easier.
tranglos:
My annual KAV license expires today, I won't be renewing.
-tranglos (September 24, 2010, 11:56 AM)
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So what will you be doing?
-superboyac (September 24, 2010, 02:06 PM)
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Right now I'll replace it with MS Security Essentials. It's got fawning reviews, fared well in tests, and is supposed to be rather lightweight. In July, months ago when I was still running XP, I installed version 2 beta - and it was the opposite of lightweight, looking at the RAM footprint, but maybe that was just a beta thing. So I'll install the current, non-beta release. I sure hope it has a command to pause the realtime scanner!
superboyac:
Thanks, tranglos. Let us know how that goes. I'm still toying with the idea of turning everything off and just running daily scans while I'm sleeping or at work.
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