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urlwolf:
Here's the font problem (on wiznote, office, IE 10, and anything that uses the new rendering):
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/poor-font-rendering-in-windows-8-blurry-text/f52a2002-d748-485c-8b9c-4862806ea94a?page=1

IainB:
...I've found a killer notetaker: wiznote. Chinesse-only website, but chrome does a decent work translating it.
It does many things right:

* Security. Notes encrypted locally before sending it to server-
* Multiplatform
* Very flexible interface (2/3 columns)
* Plugins
* Android app that beats even onenote
* Tables
* good paste from web, with url included next to the paste (like onenote)
* Can publish to blog straight (!)
* Very clean Html. Beats word, gdocs. No inline css.
* Word count. Press 'i' icon, then details
* Tagging
* Very flexible tree, you can disable showing notes in subfolders (Apple-styple only one level deep)
* Export is not an afterthought.
* Live search, highlights matches, shows small window of context (like rightnote, evernote). Beats onenote
* Web access (www.wiz.cn), in chinesse :)
* Autolink urls
* Beats any local wiki, no silly formatting, all wysiwyg
* Can add a note without opening main app (like cintanotes)
* Saves version history, for free (only in paid evernote)
* Can set paragraph line height (1.5x improves readability)
* Multi-search match highlights
And many things wrong:

* No autocapitalization of sentences
* Fonts kind of suck; no cleartype, no smoothing whatsoever. As horrible as office 2013.
* Have to get out of edit mode to search
* Changing from one note to another is slow (subsecond, but slow)
* Not easy to move with kb on the right side tree
* No spellcheck ...
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-urlwolf (May 16, 2013, 02:45 AM)
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After reading @urlwolf's post, I took a look at WizNote.
This is just a heads-up re WizNote:
I could not find this referenced otherwise in the DC forum,  or the OutlinerSoftware forum, or their EditGrid list of Outliners.
So I posted details to them both, and here's the post to the DC forum.
It might be going under a different name elsewhere, but I do not know.
WizNote is new to me anyway, and because @urlwolf said it was a killer notetaking app, I tried it out. He was not far wrong. It seems to be very good.

Features include: (not an exhaustive list by any means)

* a FREE version (there’s a limit on Cloud storage and Cloud function, I think, though am not sure what).
* a VIP version which has a monthly bill of 600 10 yuan or something.
* a simple-and-easy-to-use desktop application (this is mandatory to use the system and to set up your database and Cloud account).
* a web-based application (so you and selected collaborators can access it from a web browser).
* AES encryption for specified folders/notes.
* a mobile application (*app*) - (I think, but I have not looked at this aspect, yet).
* 3-pane Outliner format.
* internal/external hyperlinking.
* hierarchical Tags.
* Standard word searches and SQL searches.
* saved searches (so you can use the searches as a view across segments of your database).
* an email address (to receive email, but not sure whether it can send any directly).
* plugins including web-clipping tools - “send-toWizNote” - add-ons for Firefox, Chrome and IE (and other browsers).
* capture of selected parts or entire web pages (as HTML, with all rich text and images separately editable in the Outlines.
* in the desktop version, images can be edited instantly via seamless integration with MS Paint, and saved back seamlessly into the Outliner, replacing the image you started with.
* smooth and fast auto-syncing to the Cloud (you have to open up a FREE account to use this), and easy access by collaborators.
* collaborators can be set up as “groups” and can be sent emailed notices of certain events (I don’t understand what exactly, as the emails are in Chinese).
* built-in Import/Export (e.g., even to output CHM help file formats). Some of this seems ro be via plugins, of which there look to me many. I tried a plugin for importing a OneNote notebook, but it was for OneNote 2007 or 2010, not my version 2013, I think. It partially worked, and rather well, at that.
* quite a few more very nifty features, too many to list here and several I have not fully explored yet.
It feels like a cross between InfoSelect v8 and MS OneNote 2013, and has some surprisingly intuitive responses. Quite nice to use.
There are some pros and cons, but this is NOT an evaluation report - I am still exploring/discovering the app.
The biggest difficulty I have found so far was ploughing my way through Google Translate versions of the Chinese websites I had to visit for the main application and its plugins.

Collected links to download as at 2013-05-18: (so you don’t have to spend the time I did in finding the latest/current versions).

* Download the desktop application from: http://download.wiz.cn/download/wiznote/wiznote-windows-x86-2013-04-25.exe
Download via: http://www.wiz.cn/index.html
              http://download.wiz.cn/download?product=wiznote&client=windows-x86


* Download Chrome web clipper extension from: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wiznote-web-clipper/jfanfpmalehkemdiiebjljddhgojhfab


* Download Firefox web clipper add-on from: https://addons.mozilla.org/zh-cn/firefox/addon/wiznote-web-clipper/
If anyone was interested, I could set up my trial WizNote Cloud database for others to access - it is mostly full of English translations of the Chinese documentation about WizNote, so we could collaborate on that and experiment with it as we learn together.

mwb1100:
a VIP version which has a monthly bill of 600 yuen or something.
-IainB (May 17, 2013, 12:36 PM)
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600 Yuan is about $100 USD - so I hope that's either a mistake or that the VIP version has some pretty nice features.

rgdot:
Second attempt at downloading/reaching their site...fails. Looking forward to give it a try.

urlwolf:
FWIW, I think it's a killer app.
A pity the forums, and the rest of the site, is not in EN.
There seem to be many plugins.
I could run the android app on my 2.3 phone, but on my 4.2 tablet it doesn't seem to even be listed on the app store.

How this flew under the radar, I have no idea. It does many things right.

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