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rjbull:
tokjdm,

I find this thread very interesting. I have been looking for the ultimate note taker for years and am not satisfied with my current choice (one note). Someone talked earlier about Memorymate (a DOS program) and this is still my reference today (although I can't use it any longer because of the format restrictions).
-tokjdm (April 27, 2006, 12:53 AM)
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I still haven't seen anything as clean, simple and effective as Memory Mate, with its limited but sensible Boolean search terms and indexed database, giving retrieval that's both fast and precise.  For large quantitites of scraps of unstructured data, the tree model isn't very useful, certainly not as useful as a full-text, free-text database.

Another important factor is unicode compatibility

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You might want to look at ScrapBook which is a small freeware cardfile program with a Unicode version, but, you would probably find it too simple for most needs.  This Wiki entry on cardfiles might also be relevant.  ScrapBook was mentioned in a recent post on TinyApps Blog

Infoselect and Inforecall are just tree-based programs, like treepad

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Info Select for DOS didn't start that way.  It was a bit more like Memory Mate, and put little windows that matched the search on screen.  I haven't looked at the Windows version because of the cost.

tokjdm:
I really wish MemoryMate had been better adapted to the Windows environment. The current version released by Brownbag simply does not work http://www.swreg.org/soft_shop/18/shopscr35.shtml.
Scrapbook is nice and I used it for some time but the search and formatting functions are too limited (and I had problems with bugs at the time, v2.20 may be better).

rjbull:
I really wish MemoryMate had been better adapted to the Windows environment. The current version released by Brownbag simply does not work
-tokjdm (April 27, 2006, 05:08 AM)
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You're not the only one to say that about Memory Mate; see e.g. John Buckman's outliners page

Scrapbook is nice and I used it for some time but the search and formatting functions are too limited (and I had problems with bugs at the time, v2.20 may be better).

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ScrapBook 2.20 is dated 21 April 2006, so it's hot off the press.  I haven't used it "for real," but it looks best suited to simple actions and short records.  Pity...

It occurs to me that despite being tree-style, you might find Treepad Asia a possible stopgap because it supports Asian languages.  You can always ignore the tree style  :)  You get rather better search facilities if you use the free Treepad viewer, but it's still limited compared to Memory Mate.  I've been tinkering with Treepad Lite lately, largely because it has a simple file format, and most other programs can directly import its files anyway.  So if I do find something better, it won't be such a problem to change.

tokjdm:
Treepad Asia does not really work with Asian languages. It works only if you have that language version of Windows installed. I use two computers: one with English windows (but Japanese language installed) and the other one with Japanese windows. Treepad Asia will work in Japanese only with the second one. This is much too cumbersome. I remember when I first saw Treepad I asked them when unicode compatibility would be implemented and they said in 3 months. I think that this was 3 years ago and unicode compatibility is still promised as a future development on their website.

nevf:
I've just discovered this thread has come back to life again and I haven't received any e-mail notifications of these new posts. :o

Will try and catch in the next few days. No time just now.

For those interested Surfulater V1.96.2.0 was released this week. See: http://blog.surfulater.com/2006/04/25/surfulater-v196-b20-released-calm-seas-ahead/ and http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842

Plus two new articles on "Pushing content into Surfulater from other Programs". Part 1 http://blog.surfulater.com/2006/04/26/pushing-content-into-surfulater-from-other-programs-part-1/ and Part 2: http://blog.surfulater.com/2006/04/26/pushing-content-into-surfulater-from-other-programs-part-2/

Later,
Neville

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