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General brainstorming for Note-taking software
superboyac:
I like where this discussion is going... because I too am in favor of the note-side of things! Real quick note: Keynote did have capturing capability. It was a fledgling start but compared to many other apps of it's time it was special.
But, I have to jump back on my soapbox, sorry! Note programs need to be able to store and relate information... this ought to be the primary function. I should be able to build very rigid structures (a la Keynote) but I should also be able to build weak relationships and strengthen them over time. And now, before I go off on a wild-eyed tangential dream (and repeat myself!)... I go.
Kevin
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Ah yes, the tag/label thing. I do agree with this also. It would be extremely powerful to be able to build relationships instead of just a simple heirarchy. I think the fundamental difference here is that a note won't be restricted to one location, but can be shared between several categories. Like a note about Screenshot Captor can be under the categories of "Windows Utilities" and "Graphics Utilities", but the note itself is a single note, not copied in two places. That is powerful indeed.
This is what Evernote can do, but Evernote is still somewhat restrictive in it's approach because while you can have categories like you mentioned, the fundamental sorting method in it is strictly chronological. So if you have, say, hundreds of notes, it can be a bit messy to use because even if you go to a single category, it's difficult to find a note if their are a lot of them, because they will simply be displayed top to bottom in chronological order.
So I guess we want our cake and eat it, too! We want to be able to have the traditional heirarchy, but we also want the notes to be governed by relationships. Here's what I propose: the categories or labels can be structured in the tree/heirarchy format, but the individual notes can be placed in multiple branches of that tree. Again, I think Evernote is a living example of this right now, if you want to try it out. Maybe Gmail can do this also...confirmation BrotherS?
PS I wasn't aware of Keynote's capturing abilities!
brotherS:
Here's what I propose: the categories or labels can be structured in the tree/heirarchy format, but the individual notes can be placed in multiple branches of that tree. Maybe Gmail can do this also...confirmation BrotherS?
-superboyac (February 27, 2006, 11:05 PM)
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Google Mail does show the labels in a alphabetical order, and you can label every email with as many labels as you like - I don't label some at all, many get one label, and then some get two or three labels.
nevf:
... It would be extremely powerful to be able to build relationships instead of just a simple heirarchy. I think the fundamental difference here is that a note won't be restricted to one location, but can be shared between several categories. Like a note about Screenshot Captor can be under the categories of "Windows Utilities" and "Graphics Utilities", but the note itself is a single note, not copied in two places. That is powerful indeed.
-superboyac (February 27, 2006, 11:05 PM)
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Surfulater works this way. There is only ever one physical instance of a 'note', but it can be in as many tree folders as you want.
Surfulater also lets you link related 'notes' together so you build a web of related information. This is very useful.
So I guess we want our cake and eat it, too! We want to be able to have the traditional heirarchy, but we also want the notes to be governed by relationships. Here's what I propose: the categories or labels can be structured in the tree/heirarchy format, but the individual notes can be placed in multiple branches of that tree. Again, I think Evernote is a living example of this right now, if you want to try it out.
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I don't see a tight connection between the hierarchical tree and tags (labels, keywords whatever).
Tags are separate organizational method which can be used in a variety of ways. For example you get a list of all tags and selecting one shows all notes which include that tag. Tags could also be used in conjunction with filtered tree views. In this mode the tree would only include notes that included a certain tag or tags. With a good implementation of tags some folks might not even use the tree.
Time to go get some sleep.
kfitting:
"PS I wasn't aware of Keynote's capturing abilities!"
Sorry if I misunderstand your sentence here, but I'm interpreting it as you want to know more. (?) If you already know or have since found out, please disregard this post!
If you go into the Keynote options, there is a whole panel for clipboard capture. Basically Keynote watches the clipboard and captures the clip as it comes in. There are some format modifying that can be done, and then the clip is sent straight to the active Tab in a new note. My main problem is that the new node cannot be named on the fly. Even if a dialog box popped up that you could type the name in would make it more useful in my opinion.
Kevin
superboyac:
"PS I wasn't aware of Keynote's capturing abilities!"
Sorry if I misunderstand your sentence here, but I'm interpreting it as you want to know more. (?) If you already know or have since found out, please disregard this post!
If you go into the Keynote options, there is a whole panel for clipboard capture. Basically Keynote watches the clipboard and captures the clip as it comes in. There are some format modifying that can be done, and then the clip is sent straight to the active Tab in a new note. My main problem is that the new node cannot be named on the fly. Even if a dialog box popped up that you could type the name in would make it more useful in my opinion.
Kevin
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Now that you mention it, I do remember that clipboard feature. I guess I never used it at the time. Thanks!
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