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40hz:
-thanks, 40hz :-)

Now if somebody would only resurrect Aldus Freehand  -40hz (June 22, 2010, 06:57 AM)
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was that freeware?
or are you telling that you don't like either FreeHand MX or CS Illustrator ?

Edited: No, it's not really the same thing, I realize, now
re-edited#2: I realized nothing, did I. But at least I have now found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldus
-Curt (June 22, 2010, 07:18 AM)
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AFAIK, it's currently a semi-orphaned product still being sold by Adobe. They junked it up big time when they acquired it. (Adobe is a feature junky if there ever was one) But it's still a dead product. They aren't doing any updates to it. Nor have they for some years now.  And you can forget about Win7 or 64-bit.

If you call to order it they try very hard to convince you to get Illustrator instead. Can't blame them. Freehand and Illustrator serve the same function so it really doesn't make much sense for them to offer both.

Per Adobe's website:

Adobe and the Future of FreeHand

No updates to FreeHand have been made for over four years, and Adobe has no plans to initiate development to add new features or to support Intel-based Macs and Windows Vista.

To support customer workflows, we will continue to sell FreeHand and offer technical and customer support in accordance with our policies.

While we recognize FreeHand has a loyal customer base, we encourage users to migrate to the new Adobe Illustrator CS4 software which supports both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs and Microsoft Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Illustrator CS4 offers powerful new features, including functionality designed to appeal to FreeHand users, such as multiple artboards, the Blob Brush tool and transparency in gradients.

FreeHand customers can switch to Illustrator CS4 for US$199 (volume licensing also available), and access complimentary resources to ease the transition. For additional information, please visit www.adobe.com/illustrator
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Illustrator is a great app and no doubt about it. But from my perspective, Freehand felt like a sporty Alpha Romeo while Illustrator was more like a Land Rover. Freehand got you where you wanted to go with style and speed. Illustrator can take you anywhere and do just about anything. But it's big, and heavy, and overkill for a lot of things - unless you want to use it in conjunction with the rest of Adobe's suite of products and their concept of workflow. Because that's where Illustrator does shine.

I like applications to be light. Basically only do a few things really well and forget the rest.
For the most part I don't like apps which look like they're on steroids. Purely a personal thing.

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40hz:
(see my signature)
-tomos (June 22, 2010, 07:23 AM)
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@tomos - Awesome! Thanks for letting me know about these people. I'm in!  :Thmbsup:

tomos:
this should nearly be split to a new thread (?) [edit] on second thoughts probably not [/edit] -
I'd like to see a good discussion about Illustrator vs FreeHand vs ?? but I dont want to take over here...
I bought CS4, havent really used the damn thing yet (long story) & now CS5 is out with some (more) ideas taken from FreeHand (which is a good thing).  
Upgrade ONLY $199 ;)

Fontographer is aimed at pros, hence the high-ish price tag  - relatively cheap though compared to photoshop @ $700 ;)
If you're doing something every day all day it's worth chipping out for the programme that does it best and easiest - if you're lucky enough to find one that is both... I've never used this or any font creation programmes for that matter, I'll leave that to the pros :)


[edit] of course the question for anyone thinking of buying or upgrading, is, as your title Curt: "the new FOG! Same as the old FOG?" [/edit]

Curt:
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-email from Fontographer
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Curt:
-and now  one year later:


Fontlab and Dutch Type Library have joined forces to offer version 2.4 of DTL OTMaster and version 5.1 of Fontographer together in a bundle at an unprecedented discount of 41%! Ordinarily we don't do discounts so you probably won't ever see anything like this again. But it's only for the month of July, so get your orders in NOW.

http://www.fontlab.com/fontlab-font-utilities/dtl-otmaster/purchase-dtl-otmaster.html

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What Does OTMaster Do?    

With OTMaster you won't go cross-eyed trying to make sense of binary tables. OTM gives you an organized visual GUI with everything neatly arranged so that you can see exactly what's going on inside your font.

You don't have to worry about the data being filtered or interpreted by another program. What you see in OTMaster is precisely what is in the final font - true WYSIWYG.


  glyph-editor&viewer included


How About That FOG 5.1 ?
   
Now with EPAR!
This new version of Fontographer, our font editor extraordinaire, is the first to include the ability to create an EPAR OpenType table. EPAR (Embedding, Permissions And Recommendations) is a way to put license information right into your fonts in a format that users can easily see and understand.

 
As soon as a user opens an "EPAR"ed font in Fontographer a transient popup informs them who licensed the font and what is allowed and disallowed in the license. For instance, if you want to permit video embedding, or prevent backwards conversion, the user knows it right up front.

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