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But I guess your remark was meant to target Microsoft and the differences Vista and Win7 brought? Which is pretty off-topic, since we're discussing Editors, and the post you (part-)quoted was about standardized keybindings.
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Hm, it was about the "user interface" actually, which is not restricted to the keybindings. So I was, maybe, wrong.  :)

Obviously I don't expect *u*x to follow the same standards, problem is that *u*x doesn't have the same kind of standardization... but ah well, this is a different rant, for another thread.
-f0dder (February 14, 2010, 10:36 AM)
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I agree, it would have been awesome if Vim and Emacs were using the same standard keysets :)
-kartal (February 14, 2010, 10:39 AM)
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Think bigger, though: systemwide standards. I can user Ctrl+Arrowkeys to jump at word boundaries in most edit controls (whether single- or multiline), I can use shift+navigation to select, ctrl+backspace/del to delete to the respective word endings, there's home/end/pgup/pgdn, et cetera. ONE set of (reasonable) keybindings that are simple to remember and work across pretty much every application on the system.
-f0dder (February 14, 2010, 10:49 AM)
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Definetely, and that is precisely what I have done with my Vim settings. :)

... Think bigger, though: systemwide standards. I can user Ctrl+Arrowkeys to jump at word boundaries in most edit controls (whether single- or multiline), I can use shift+navigation to select, ctrl+backspace/del to delete to the respective word endings, there's home/end/pgup/pgdn, et cetera. ONE set of (reasonable) keybindings that are simple to remember and work across pretty much every application on the system.
-f0dder (February 14, 2010, 10:49 AM)
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Exactly! Learn once - use everywhere.

And this tangent is certainly NOT off-topic. The standardization of the keystroke bindings for Windows is one of the reasons I keep sticking with it (and the text editors which are keyboard intensive). These keystrokes have become indelibly burned into my brain. Even Mac has adopted the CUT, COPY PASTE hotkey conventions. IMHO this is a *very* good thing.

As an aside - EditPad pro has a one-click selection for WORDSTAR key bindings. Can you say CTRL+K? ;)

When setting up a new computer for a client, I need a good text editor that can be installed and left on the box. The editor must be free for commercial use.-widgewunner (February 11, 2010, 08:14 PM)
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I used to use Crimson Editor a bit at work, though not as a coder.  Someone in the Crimson Editor forums told me he used it for just the purpose you state.

The free version of EditPad is pretty good but is missing some essentials: Regex search/replace and spell check.
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I think the current free version of EditPad Lite is only free for personal use, but you probably know that.  If you want regexp, you have to have one of the newer versions of Crimson Editor, which I haven't tried.

Other requirements are small footprint, fast startup and non-obtrusive invasion of the system registry and file system. Syntax highlighting would be nice but is not essential. Also, it must adhere to the standard Windows keystroke shortcuts (i.e. CTRL+TAB=previous file, CTRL+LEFT=word left, CTRL+RIGHT=word right, CTRL+UP=scroll up, F1=help, CTRL+PGUP=... etc.)
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I think Crimson Editor has all those except fast startup.  Also, when I last looked, the Help file was HTML.

So PSPad or Notepad++?
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I dabbled with both.  PSPad crashed on me once or twice when I was using its clipboard accumulation feature.  I probably forced the error, but I was too wary to persevere with it.  Also, there seemed very few keys available to bind macros to.  Frankly, it's getting hard to recommend anything other than Notepad++ for your sort of requirement.

a list of Editors (for windows) that are free for commercial use - I put them in spoilers cause the list was so long

SpoilerPSPad - Jan Fiala - editor for developers for Microsoft Windows systems
"freeware product (both for personal and commercial use)"
Freeware Genius - PSPad: a small, powerful, and versatile freeware text editor
Freeware Junkie

Notepad2 - Florian Balmer - Open Source (based on Scintilla)
Notepad2 Modifications - Kai Liu

TED Notepad
"TED Notepad is targeted particularly to users with non-trivial demands and tasks: Those that need to quickly extract info from the text, find duplicate lines or sort them, convert case, replace or reverse something non-trivial, and so on."

Metapad - newly Open Source
"metapad is a small, fast (and completely free) text editor for Windows 9x/NT/XP/Vista with similar features to Microsoft Notepad but with many extra (and rather useful) features. It was designed to completely replace Notepad since it includes all of Notepad's features and much, much more."

RJ TextEd - A Unicode source and text editor.
"RJ TextEd is released as FREEWARE. However, if you find the program useful I would appreciate a small donation."

ConTEXT Text Editor - Eden Kirin

Win32Pad - Gena01 - Gennady Feldman
"It's FREEWARE. Which means that you are allowed to use it for personal or commercial purposes (without selling it of course). You are also allowed to give the program to your friends"
"Win32Pad is a feature filled text editor that is written with a programmer in mind. Its main purpose is to provide enough functionality that is missing from notepad without sacrificing file size and performance."

NoteTab Lite - Fookes Software
3 versions .. Pro is $29
Additional tools, most are free

LopeEdit Lite - (Author of FileMenu Tools)

QJot - xtort
"Freeware. For the masses.  ... QJot is a small USB portable alternative rich text editor that reads and writes .doc files, inserts images and more. It is basically meant to serve as a good WordPad replacement."

Xint - xtort

SubPad - xtort
"no-install USB compatible lightweight notepad clone .. faster find/replace, MRU documents, and syntax highlighting ... find/replace routine is perhaps one of the fastest out there."

TabPad - Michael Dickens
" (Opensource and/or freeware) Applications .. Donations are appreciated, but the programs, tutorials and services provided by will always remain free."
"TabPad is yet another Notepad clone - except with tabs."

"PlainEdit is a text editor for ANSI and ASCII files. Syntax highlighting is supported for the most common Web, script and programming languages. Many functions for text conversion, formatting, decoding and encoding are included."
License:   Royalty free (Donate button)

NotePad++ - Open Source (based on Scintilla)
Forum (a bit of a mess, indicating project may be fully ended)


(this division is very rough, any division-tweaking help is appreciated)
SourceEdit - Brixoft
Forums (light activit)
"Brixoft Source Edit is a FREE award winning editor especially made for developers. It has syntax highlighters for all the most common computer languages and if you miss one you easily create your own with the built-in Language Editor."
Lifehacker - SourceEdit is a Beefy Text Editor for Programmers
"Brixoft File Courier is a FTP client application distributed together with Source Edit ... HexSource is a free hex editor that is distributed together with Source Edit. The source code is available and distributed according to the GNU license agreement."   

Programmer's Notepad - Echo Software - Simon Steele - Open Source - (based on Scintilla, as are some above)
Licensing -

Open Komodo Open Source GNU, and IDE component
Mailman Archive Forum (2008) Inactive -  - Check others
"very impressive professional editor for dynamic languages" - Smashing Magazine 35 Useful Source Code Editors
Komodo Edit (developers of Komodo IDE)
Mailing Lists (komodo-discuss)

Crimson Editor  (shows nice list of nine other editors with short description)
Email forum

Emerald Editor
"Emerald Editor is (being) designed to be an open-source multi-purpose, functional text editor, inspired heavily by Crimson Editor. It is available under the GNU General Public License."
Developers direction after Crimson Editor source code was releases

"Webocton - Scriptly is an extensive freeware code editor for writing HTML and programming with PHP."
Forum - German

"TotalEdit is free for commercial and non-commercial purposes (its freeware)." Pro is $10
"HTML Kit is a full-featured free editor for HTML, XHTML, XML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP and other text files. 400+ plugins are available for it .. "

Bluefish Editor
"Bluefish is an open source project, released under the GNU GPL licence."
New releases, mailing lists, not sure which are active.

"Alleycode is a fast, sleek and highly productive award winning HTML editor with unique features ... Alleycode is FREE! (we do accept donations if you find it useful)."

Visual Web Developer Express 2008 (above)will has an HTML editor integrated in the package.  The free Visual Studio edition also contains an editor.

HateML Pro
"HateML Pro is freeware product and a powerful PHP IDE with support for XHTML and CSS for both professional and novice users alike. Designed to help accelerate the process of editing,debugging web applications, php scripts and simple XHTML sites as well."

"Dev-PHP is a well-featured integrated development environment (IDE). You'll be able to create scripts and applications using the PHP scripting language and the PHP-GTK library (both included in the "PHP Package").
Dev-PHP is free software under the GNU General Public License"
Editor is one part of the project.

CodePad (2006)
"CodePad may be used free of charge, but if you wish to express your appreciation for the time and resources the author have expended developing and supporting it over the years, I do accept and appreciate donations."

FlashDevelop - Open Source
"FlashDevelop is a free and open source (MIT license) source code editor."

Geany - Linux heritage
"Geany is a text editor using the GTK2 toolkit with basic features of an integrated development environment... To run Geany under Windows you may need to install the GTK+ runtime libraries"

InType (Alpha)
"Intype is a powerful and intuitive code editor for Windows with lightning fast response. It is easily extensible and customizable, thanks in part to its support for scripting and native plug-ins."

-Steven Avery (July 05, 2009, 07:28 PM)
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