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Scripting vs. Programming
CodeTRUCKER:
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Of course this line is blurred,
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Hence this futile exercise, but it is fun! :)
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It's the same as describing someone as a runner or a writer. Most people can run and write yet the titles imply a higher level of competency and experience in the task.
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Yes, but what specific demarcation is the "graduation" to writing, running or programming? Who is the judge?
You make some good points, but let me ask you this. If you were an employer for an I.T. department and you needed to hire a "programmer," which would you hire?
* A person that has written hundreds of 50 - 3500 line "scripts" and even one 4300 line "script."
* A person that has coded in C++, Delphi and (way back) COBOL, but the longest "program" was only 780 lines and there wasn't that many.
Ok, maybe that's not be completely fair, but it says something about this debate.
Oh, one more thing. I have often noted that in a debate of this nature the reason that it is very difficult to qualify and/or quantify where the line actually goes is because there was never any real line there in the first place. At least from my perspective.
Eóin:
Well my point is that who to hire is not so much based on the language, but on the contents of what they've written. I'm trying to suggest that the difference between scripting and programming is in what you write rather what you write it in.
Of experience in the language you intend them to use is an important real life factor I'm sure.
As for what do you graduate to a programmer, runner, etc? Well when you're there you'll know you're there but won't know when you got there. :D
CodeTRUCKER:
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As for what do you graduate to a programmer, runner, etc? Well when you're there you'll know you're there but won't know when you got there. :D
-Eóin (December 09, 2009, 04:30 PM)
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So, where does that leave us in this debate? Are we doomed to be scripters and not programmers, programmers that never scripted, until we get to the place where we know we are not just programming scripters since programmers that had previously not scripted, but are now scripting programmers and scripters that had never programmed are finally deemed the weakest of programmers to be scripters and the weakest of strong scripters that will never be deemed programmers?
Veign:
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Scripting Languages use variables - example: VBScript.
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How about this...
The only reason that any one conceives of VBScript, Javascript, etc. IMIO is because the "script" moniker was hung on to the name. Would it (them) be known as "script" if the author(s) had named them "VBExtra," "JavaRod," etc.
Could this be a valid explanation?
-CodeTRUCKER (December 09, 2009, 02:54 PM)
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Yes. They are most definitely scripting languages.
CodeTRUCKER:
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Scripting Languages use variables - example: VBScript.
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How about this...
The only reason that any one conceives of VBScript, Javascript, etc. IMIO is because the "script" moniker was hung on to the name. Would it (them) be known as "script" if the author(s) had named them "VBExtra," "JavaRod," etc.
Could this be a valid explanation?
-CodeTRUCKER (December 09, 2009, 02:54 PM)
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Yes. They are most definitely scripting languages.
-Veign (December 09, 2009, 05:15 PM)
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Ok, I'll play the stooge...
No, no, no you missed the point!
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