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40hz:
OO!!  One of the very few editors with ftp access built in.  Very tempting just for that.
-superboyac (January 24, 2013, 04:27 PM)
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I see that as a kind of anti-feature, aimed at disorganized PHP developers :)

-f0dder (January 25, 2013, 01:56 AM)
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LOL! That was cold! ;D Likely true. :Thmbsup: But still cold. ;D

wraith808:
OO!!  One of the very few editors with ftp access built in.  Very tempting just for that.
-superboyac (January 24, 2013, 04:27 PM)
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I see that as a kind of anti-feature, aimed at disorganized PHP developers :)

-f0dder (January 25, 2013, 01:56 AM)
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And disorganized Javascript developers :)
* wraith808 raises hand
In my defense... I'm not a web developer!

f0dder:
OO!!  One of the very few editors with ftp access built in.  Very tempting just for that.
-superboyac (January 24, 2013, 04:27 PM)
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I see that as a kind of anti-feature, aimed at disorganized PHP developers :)
-f0dder (January 25, 2013, 01:56 AM)
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LOL! That was cold! ;D Likely true. :Thmbsup: But still cold. ;D
-40hz (January 25, 2013, 08:56 AM)
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Well, sorry.

But once you've seen enough people that directly edit their scripts webpages on production servers, don't have any VCS, and only occasionally do backups in zipfiles (with no coherent naming schemes...), you kinda start to disapprove of built-in ftp support :)

40hz:
OO!!  One of the very few editors with ftp access built in.  Very tempting just for that.
-superboyac (January 24, 2013, 04:27 PM)
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I see that as a kind of anti-feature, aimed at disorganized PHP developers :)
-f0dder (January 25, 2013, 01:56 AM)
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LOL! That was cold! ;D Likely true. :Thmbsup: But still cold. ;D
-40hz (January 25, 2013, 08:56 AM)
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Well, sorry.

But once you've seen enough people that directly edit their scripts webpages on production servers, don't have any VCS, and only occasionally do backups in zipfiles (with no coherent naming schemes...), you kinda start to disapprove of built-in ftp support :)
-f0dder (January 25, 2013, 11:46 AM)
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No need to apologize over that observation. ;D :Thmbsup:

Not that I can really blame the pHp crowd. Just like you can't be a good employee if you're working for a bad company - you can't become an elegant programmer if you're working with something like pHp. At least from my experience with it. pHp is easily the least elegant of any computer language I've ever seen. And I've worked with COBOL, Basic, and APL so I know ugly when I see it. But in this case, it's more than just the syntax. It's the whole design of the thing (or possibly lack thereof) that makes me want to scream every time I see a listing of pHp code. It's brought the concept of 'quick & dirty' and 'fix it later' programming to a whole new level AFAIC. ;)

wraith808:
Not that I can really blame the pHp crowd. Just like you can't be a good employee if you're working for a bad company - you can't become an elegant programmer if you're working with something like pHp. At least from my experience with it. pHp is easily the least elegant of any computer language I've ever seen. And I've worked with COBOL, Basic, and APL so I know ugly when I see it. But in this case, it's more than just the syntax. It's the whole design of the thing (or possibly lack thereof) that makes me want to scream every time I see a listing of pHp code. It's brought the concept of 'quick & dirty' and 'fix it later' programming to a whole new level AFAIC.
-40hz (January 25, 2013, 12:59 PM)
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Oh, I think you *can* with anything- but that's just my observation.  It's less likely, and if you aren't intent on it, it definitely won't happen.

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