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brotherS:
I've just been looking at a few more Windows editors.  Originally, I was looking for these features:


* Automatic back-ups
* Bookmarks
* Edit multiple files (tabbed interface?)
* Ability to specify filters as external user tools (most seem to unable to cope with redirection symbols)-rjbull (January 16, 2009, 08:32 AM)
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I love win32pad - it can do NOTHING what you are looking for in an editor, but what it does it does really well.  :Thmbsup:

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Win32Pad/944076528/1 (only 72 kb!)

A superb replacement for M$'s Notepad.exe. Amazingly small size. Fast and stable. Lots of features for its size.

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kartal:
Has anyone used pro version of LopeEdit ? Is it worth the money?

http://www.lopesoft.com/en/index.html

Jussi Jumppanen:
I upgraded to version 3.94a from 3.93 for which I paid full price less than one year earlier. I regarded the upgrade price to be too high and was very disappointed to find that the two versions were virtually indistinguishable to me. -tide (April 20, 2009, 04:09 AM)
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One version of Zeus runs quite happily right next to any other version, provided each version is installed in a different folders. So this is where the trial version is invaluable.

If it was me, I would just run the newer trial version for the full 45 days, just to see if added any value. Naturally if I found there was nothing in it for me I would not bother with the upgrade and just wait for the next release.

This has always been the recommended approach to upgrading and the user is even reminded of this on the Zeus upgrade page: http://www.zeusedit.com/purchase.html

I suspect you might sell more copies/upgrades if you were to adopt versioning that is more in line with the rest of the world.
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You might be right, but the Zeus version numbers are now part of history ;)

rjbull:
STDIN/STDOUT/STDERR work irrespectively of a command shell - when you use win32 CreateProcess, you can override those handles at will. Even GUI processes can use stdin/stdout/stderr, not just console processes.-f0dder (April 16, 2009, 04:15 AM)
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OK, but in practice I find editors tend not to enable access to STDIN etc. to user tools.

If you press almost any other key, you lose the marked area and have to start again.
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This is a Windows standard so I suspect that is why most windows editors do this. But in Zeus this is configurable.
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Another piece of Microsoft stupidity that has to be fixed by the aftermarket...
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Dunno if it's stupid, I guess it depends on what you grew up with. Most of the time, with my usage habits, this is a decent enough default. For a serious editor, I prefer also having the option of persistent selection, as well as mark-begin + mark-end.

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Good point: I grew up with persistent selections.  From your last sentence, I presume those features must be present in NPP, so I suppose I'd better go and look for them  :)

rjbull:
In fact the 3.94a version is so different from the latest Zeus it can be downloaded free of charge from this link:
http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/ze32r394a.zip-Jussi Jumppanen (April 19, 2009, 08:14 PM)
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<erm>  Jussi, does that mean free download, i.e. you don't have to pay to download a trial, or free software, i.e. you don't have to pay to keep and use it?  Or is there a lower fee for the older version?

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