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GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)

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nitrix-ud:
just a reminder, i know from experience that some script need to be run on a web server
this wiki seems to work nicely, but let's not forget that some could need a web server therefore instead of having :
htmlviewurl file://%FARRDIR%MyLocalData/webtool
we would have :
htmlviewurl http://localhost/webtool
and a web server running  :'(

@mouser,
i'm really happy that you are starting to enjoy the html viewer a lot
(no, it is not just an new view for plugins  :P)

+1, for specifying windows size in alias, regex mask and what not

but

+10 for address bar (this is an absolute must)

+10 to be able to close FARR, then activate it again and switch to htmlviewurl with the last url re-loaded (very useful for GTDs, quick look up, etc.)
to keep things simple, and as a first step why not have a special variable in FARR : %lasturl%, so one could quickly build an alias :
dosearch htmlviewurl %lasturl% (we could then associate it with a FARR hotkey or in FARR toolbar)

+9 for mini-toolbarr (with those 2 special buttons : copy url to search box, open url in default browser)

idea : at some point people will not change font-size in browser anymore, because everything graphic does not change
there is much better way now with zooming (firefox has it, internet explorer has it, ...) BTW very useful when surfing on a full-hd screen...
maybe it is possible to have a special command in an alias to tell FARR to auto-zoom the webpage width to FARR width ? (by increments specified by the user ?)
of course once again this has to be optionnal, i personnaly won't use it (since i'm in full hd and my FARR windows is around 900px wide;)) but i think it could be a cool feature

mouser:
I think we are going to need a mini toolbar/addressbar for html mode.  the only question is whether to let it be toggled on/off and how.  We can start collecting features you think should be on the toolbar now (addressbar for url, open in external browser, save current url in alias, font size maybe).

The idea of a command and hotkey to switch into html view and load last page is a good one.

I guess i probably need to add ability to set view size in alias as well.


I am still troubled by the idea that we are getting dangerously near the precipice of making FARR a "browser with some extras" which is not what we want.  We want FARR to be a launcher with some extras including a mini browser for specific tasks.  If people want to use a nice big browser, they should use their browser.  We don't want FARR to try to be competing with real browsers in terms of surfing features.

kartal:
I hope that Farr  wont have much memory footprint after all these new features. I really like new features but I guess speed of Farr should be the most ultimate priority.

nitrix-ud:
I am still troubled by the idea that we are getting dangerously near the precipice of making FARR a "browser with some extras" which is not what we want.  We want FARR to be a launcher with some extras including a mini browser for specific tasks.  If people want to use a nice big browser, they should use their browser.  We don't want FARR to try to be competing with real browsers in terms of surfing features.
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100% agree, i suggested the idea of an html view for FARR just after you made the showfile command
precisely to use quick and dirty tools, to look up words, to create opera speed-dialog startup page, to use single-page wiki, etc.

FARR should not become a full-blown browser...
i personnaly don't see too much benefit in having regex pattern to know whether one url should be launch internaly or in the default browser...
i don't see benefit in choosing font-size, ...
i don't think implementing any kind of popup killer, ad-killer, ... is a good idea
if you do it without adding to much memory footprint then fine, i will not complain as long as every new feature can be disabled...

FARR is a launcher and should stay a launcher... you want to google something, fine you can do it in the internal browser then somehow you fire the results in you full-blown browser
opera speed-dial like startup page would act as an advanced menu, definition lookup is ultra quick...
this is very fast browsing...
that's really the way i see it, FARR will be used for specific browsing tasks that takes less than a minute
of course some will use it for more than a minute, but somehow i think features to be implemented should be chosen with that 1-minute browsing rule in mind

Having said that and bearing the one-minute rule in mind :
address bar is a must
so are some buttons to "use" the current url
and %lasturl% is a must too ;)

i already suggested the following but i do think this is important (for keeping FARR a launcher)
there should be a way to click on a link to that it would open your default browser AND closes FARR (so that it really acts as a launcher)
i would suggest shift+click (since it is the default hotkey to open a new tab/window in major browsers)
i noticed shift+click was working great when having ie7 as the default browser, but nowadays i'm using firefox3 as my default browser.. and shift+click opens a new ie7 window each time i do it  :huh:


the only question is whether to let it be toggled on/off and how
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i suggest :
in options you could set default behaviour : either on or off
through alias or plugin you could force one or the other (htmlviewurltoolbar and htmlviewurlnotoolbar, or switches)
when in the internal browser, we could toggle it using a function key (or maybe a button in status bar if it's possible)

[bug report]

pb of focusing
if you do:
igo www.donationcoder.com
then neither the search box nor the html view is focused

however if you do :
igo www.google.com
it works ok (there is a javascript script to focus the search box...so the htmlview is focused)

TucknDar:
I hope that Farr  wont have much memory footprint after all these new features. I really like new features but I guess speed of Farr should be the most ultimate priority.-kartal (June 14, 2008, 01:39 AM)
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Agreed. Haven't noticed any problems so far, I should add, but this is an important point.

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