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urlwolf:
Actually, I agree with the list.
Opera is technically superior, but I think its management is horrid; Ignoring their users is not good for any kind of company. They will step on a landmine and remove theirselves from the genepool.
While innovative, they are the snobbish of the snobbish. How else can you explain having threads with thousands of users asking for features that are never implemented?
For example, the thread for PGP support rivals the one on notetakers here. They didn't even blink.
Renegade:
My Browser Rant...
OK - well, not much of a rant for those that know me, but still, the point to having an Internet browser is that IT'S A TOOL!
The this vs. that vs. whatever with browsers is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo flogged to death.
I need to get back on track here...
Ok - so:
The future holds only to 3-top browsers.
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Not really. Opera is still very much alive with an almost 3% marketshare (depending where you look). But mostly correct.
Anything with less than 0.5% is totally marginal.
The thing here is that there is NO reason for ANYONE to write YAB (Yet Another Browser). It's a profitless, silly market to get into.
The IE users don't care about another browser.
The Firefox fanboys will continue to rave about OSS/FOSS/<insert buzz phrase here> and whatever extension doesn't bring your computer to its knees with memory leaks (much like how Firefox has not been).
The Safari users will always be Apple fanboys and sneer at anyone on any other OS or whatever.
The Opera users will silently shrug for the most part.
The <insert browser name here> users will continue to develop the browser they use for themselves and the 3 other people that use it for 5 minutes before returning to one of the above...
The only possible market for browsers is specialize usage browsers that have very specific functionality (I'm building one for my own use but will likely never release it).
At the end of the day, IE will continue for a long time because it's just the natural default for the average computer purchased at any store. The browser warz will follow the platform warz in other words.
Sigh...
I use IE, FF and Opera for different things. They all serve different purposes for me.
Peace, Love, and Eternal Groovieness! :D
mahesh2k:
Opera is secure.
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Try to install it in internet cafe and watch how one user logs in with his username and password and gets log onto diffrent account.This problem never occured with Firefox & safari.Opera crashes so many times in comparison with any of the browser (it depends on your CPU memory also).Opera is not good choice if you save webpages for your study or anything.There is lot of problem properly saving and retriving the pages.Internet explorer is quite good at saving webpages,they have file format *.mht that saves image and html files together in file.that is cool.
Firefox is most secure
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I don't care what secunia says.These secunia is b*#h of commercial software companies,they only tell the commercial truth.So i dont count their opinion.I don't care if firefox is secure or opera,i want the browser that is not crashing & is secure in internet cafes.As i spend most of my time on the internet cafes.
Safari is joke for browser definition
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I don't think so,ask this to any apple user.They'll turn this thread into flame war.What mistake apple did is made safari available to Windows platform.Mistake is :
* Windows is highly saturated platform of developers.
* There is no appreciation for innation or portablity or any reason.
* Lot of criticism can be achieved for designing app for windows platform.
* Almost 6 user out 10 don't want to pay for software.
* They don't care if their information is accesible by Microsoft & google.,they want free thing.
Lashiec:
This Opera crashing intrigues me, I've seen other people complaining about it, and I'd like to know why is this happening. In the almost two years I've been using Opera, it never crashed on me. Nor Firefox did (except on my old computer), only IE7 :D
Opera is as good as saving webpages as IE. The problem is that it defaults to save only the HTML page, without pictures. In the dropdown box for "Type", there are options to save in pure HTML, HTML with pictures *and* MHT. The ideal would be to save everything in PDF anyway, it's more portable.
Secunia the commercial truth? O-K, if you don't care about the vulnerabilities present in software, we could go back to IE6. Besides, if you want security, what are you doing using the preinstalled browsers in a internet cafe? Use a customized version of Portable Firefox so you can keep your personal information to yourself (well, if the computer has a keylogger installed...). Unless you don't have a pendrive, or the internet cafe does not allow "installing" (decompressing a file in a new folder in the desktop, really, no registry entries involved) new programs.
The 90% of the users want a browser, nothing more nothing less. Any improvement a particular browser may have it's ignored, they simply want something that works. For now this is what Internet Explorer provides, and those who did some more research, went for Firefox. In a Mac it's Safari, and in Linux is Firefox. Opera is for the elite ;D. At the end of the day, what matters to a person is to have a mean to an end, all the security considerations, extensions, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts and all that only matter to advanced users.
icekin:
Safari is joke for browser definition
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I don't think so,ask this to any apple user.They'll turn this thread into flame war.What mistake apple did is made safari available to Windows platform.Mistake is :
-mahesh2k (January 14, 2008, 03:05 AM)
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Of course they will turn it into a flame war. While there are intelligent and matured Mac users out there, the majority that you find online will be blind fanboys. But not to say that Linux and Windows don't have their own fanbases. The ultimate measure of a program's success for me is this : the amount of work I can get done in a certain period of time. In that respect, Safari failed quite miserably on Windows and FF has come out tops, except when it crashes (occasionally).
* Windows is highly saturated platform of developers.
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Agreed.
* There is no appreciation for innation or portablity or any reason.
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There may not be emphasis on portability from Microsoft, but the users certainly appreciate it. See portableapps.com
* Lot of criticism can be achieved for designing app for windows platform.
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Criticism against developers is not limited to Windows, though given its larger userbase, its easy to see how competiting software programs will all fight for a chunk of the user's time.
* Almost 6 user out 10 don't want to pay for software.
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Most users on any OS don't want to pay for software if they can get it for free, which is why piracy (even for the Mac) thrives. A quick search on mininova for this week's torrent cloud will illustrate the point.
* They don't care if their information is accesible by Microsoft & google.,they want free thing.
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If you get a good firewall, your information won't be so easily accessible to MS or Google. And what makes you think Apple would not like to know its customer's usage patterns as well?
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