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What kind of tagging system would be appropriate for DC?
Carol Haynes:
Actually, most of your questions, Carol, have already been discussed in a talk we had on irc.
Regarding the "not change the post after 1 hour", we decided that it isn't that good of an idea, because there are several situations where it's useful to be able to edit the posts. (think minireviews, program update posts, etc).
-jgpaiva (January 14, 2008, 09:35 AM)
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There could be an argument for allowing modification for a certain type of post after the 1 hour - but actually being able to add footnotes as updates is also a good way to retain the integrity of the original review (etc.) and then it is clear what changes have been made both when product versions change and when new products are added.
Alternatively updated versions could be submitted for inclusion in that sort of thread and it could be manually amended by a moderator (I wouldn't mind doing that) - there aren't so many messages of this type that it would become overly onerous. If it became a full time job we would have to review that though or get more people involved - we could have a trusted category for people who post this sort of thing.
Lashiec:
Uh-oh, let things as they are, I'm a fan of constantly revising my posts for orthographic errors, or to rewrite some parts for better understanding. Guess I'm a perfectionist :-[
Wordzilla, I'd like a SMF mod that makes the bed, prepares the breakfast and tidies up the room for me, handy after I jump off from bed to go to college ;D
Darwin:
This truly is sad. Leaves a big hole in the two tagging threads and in a number of other threads as well. AFAICT all but about two posts have been deleted - 411 or so in total, so this will affect other threads as well.
At least it gives an insight into what a tagging system might look like! If one were able to filter posts so that all of CodeTrucker's postings were hidden from view, this is what DC would look like... Definitely food for thought. Anyway, he's left a void and I wonder if it isn't to make a point (probably not the one I've guessed at) rather than an act of petulance?
I'm truly sorry that things have come to this point. As I've stated before (and as anyone who has read many of my posts will appreciate) I don't really share CodeTrucker's sensitivities to content and blue language :-[ but I can fully appreciate his concerns and wish that he and we had handled this differently (and yes, I am aware that solutions were proposed - I'm not talking about addressing his concerns so much as the tone that the postings - from both him and others - took). Live and learn. I think Eóin really captured it with:
Hopefully those of us who followed or participated in these threads can walk away having learned one lesson; that while may there are sensitive folks out there whom to us seem to have taken it to an unreasonable extreme it still doesn't require much on our parts to be a bit more accommodating.
-Eóin (January 14, 2008, 07:22 AM)
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Personally I'm not ashamed of my responses, but I am not proud of them either, it'd be nice to forget the incident but not the lesson.
-Eóin (January 14, 2008, 07:22 AM)
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I agree with remembering the lesson - I suspect, however that a key part of that will be in remembering the incident as well. Thus, whatever decison is taken re: restoring access, etc. I think the threads themselves should be remain available and perhaps even open for posting.
PS re: allowing editing of posts in the future - I am with Lashiec, though I don't usually bother after a day or two has passed unless it's something really glaringly erroneous...
wraith808:
Wow... it seems I missed a lot over the weekend; I guess I'll just have to look at it all in RSS since that can't be deleted. ;) I'm not really sure what happened, but I also caution not to confuse the message with the messenger; I have been at clients when certain words were filtered, and certain times (Bellsouth I'm looking at you) I couldn't come to the forum at all, since after a few of those instances where people used certain words, the 'intelligent' filtering system filtered out the site. While you may view those words as perfectly a part of the english language, you can't argue that they're innocent or won't set off some filters... which indeed, even without pictures and such, still make the site NSFW. I'm one just to be quiet and just adjust my patterns- which is why for months at a time I won't post, then will start posting. If I'm at a site where this wouldn't be considered safe for work, then it's not and I don't come. /me shrugs
While I would like that such language, whether offensive to the poster or not, was not posted (and there are other forums where such words are filtered), because I like to come here and don't like disappearing like that, it just seems a fact of life here at DC, just as it is at some other sites I like to visit. Ce'st la vie.
But yeah... if you do intend that the site be SFW in general, some words are just not appropriate... But as long as we solve the blind NSFW links problem, I'll just deal...
wraith808:
Honestly I would say it's not worth the effort in this particular case. Hopefully those of us who followed or participated in these threads can walk away having learned one lesson; that while may there are sensitive folks out there whom to us seem to have taken it to an unreasonable extreme it still doesn't require much on our parts to be a bit more accommodating.
I believe things got heated here because codeTRUCKER wanted more than that and took an offensive approach in seeking his aims. Perhaps in a day or so after people have made their closing comments the threads could even be locked to prevent them being resurrected in a months times.
Personally I'm not ashamed of my responses, but I am not proud of them either, it'd be nice to forget the incident but not the lesson.
-Eóin (January 14, 2008, 07:22 AM)
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Ok... I read a lot of the replies (for some reason some of them seemed not to come through in RSS), and I will say this. I'm not defending CodeTRUCKER or his final actions, but all blame was not on his side. There were quite a few attacking statements made against him- not just tongue in cheek or misunderstandings, but some very purposefully hurtful and spiteful things said. To be fair, he seemed to be having this issue for a while, and just now has tried to take it to Mouser and the forums. I'm sure this was a big step for him, and I don't think we should be proud of any of the things that came from this, nor trying to place blame or judge the person that's gone, even if it is of his own accord. If we can learn from this- great. But don't go heaping the blame on he person who can't defend himself, which it seems like this has degenerated to the point of- this shows that nothing was learned, IMO.
EDIT: I just noticed that CodeTRUCKER took down his NANY app... that seems a pretty radical response; I suppose if the link to his app is invalid, then perhaps its for the best, but that made me sad. I'm not sure if you've edited the NANY page to reflect this mouser, but just wanted to let you know if you didn't.
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