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I'm not an Apple user, but I'd think something like that, which would completely replace the look and feel, would be something that Apple would fight very hard to make sure would be very difficult to accomplish seeing how much their UI is tied so closely to their brand name and image.

Realistically, the Ads aren't in-and-of-themselves even the issue. it's the poorly written backend (tracking and etc.) code that lags page load and turns the user experience into total shit.

Let us also not forget the fact that ad servers are a very real attack vector for malware.

Exselo Desktop looks like it is Outlook-Based on all screenshots. So is this actually a DESKTOP search app at all?

Looks like it's a desktop search tool combined with an Outlook-based collaboration tool. While it looks like it would technically work as a desktop search tool it seems like doing that would be akin to using Directory Opus solely as an image viewer.

Well, Comodo didn't last long on my system. Soon as I installed it LAN transfer speeds tanked. I turned off *everything*...firewall, AV, HIPS, etc. and the speeds were still bottlenecked. Soon as I uninstalled it (didn't even have to reboot) and the speeds miraculously returned. Searches on the internet only led to old 2007 era threads with promises that the problem had been fixed. Not exactly helpful...

So committed I was to giving Comodo a fair shake I did a complete reinstall of Windows thinking maybe some remnant of Agnitum's software was the cause. No such luck. Reports say v9 is in alpha so maybe I'll give that a try when it's released.

Meanwhile, I shall read 4wd's review of WFC & ponder my next move.

At the time I was running OSS the only other firewall with almost as fine grain control was Comodo Internet Security Suite - I have no idea if that is still the case though.

I've never heard a lot about Comodo's security suite. The extent of my knowledge was that it was the only firewall (other than Agnitum's) that will pass 100% of leak tests. I decided to poke around it a bit this morning & the results surprised me. I knew they had a paid tier and a free tier. I figured it was like all the other security software publishers in that the free tier was a stripped down or limited version of the paid product.

No, it's not. Turns out the free version is the full-on complete product and not limited in any way. The paid version just gets you tech support and expert-assisted virus/malware removal. Comodo's trying to build up its brand name and reputation in the security community (and sale SSL certificates) so part of their strategy is giving a complete security suite for free.

I've installed it and wow, it's comprehensive. I don't necessarily mean that in a good way, either. There are settings to alter nearly every single way the suite behaves. If someone doesn't know what they are doing they'll leave their system completely exposed while mistakenly thinking that their system is protected. What's worse is that the default settings are a balance of "totally locked down" and "not bothered by prompts" that I would not have necessarily have chosen as it's a little too lax, IMHO.

I'm going to give it a go for a few days, but I'm a computer security geek & playing with stuff like this gives me great joy, but before anyone else decides to install this, please keep in mind that this thing has a 648 page PDF manual. That's six hundred forty-eight pages. Get too overzealous & strict with your settings and your PC is not going to boot.

If you want to get an education (or already have one) this might be a fun ride, but for the Click Next-Next-Next-Done crowd it will mostly end in salty tears.

It's too bad that these Internet Security Suites don't allow you to uninstall parts you don't require or at least stop them from using resources, you could continue to use just the firewall component then.

I will give the Comodo guys credit for their installer. They list the different modules: AV, firewall, hardened browser, and their GeekBuddy expert service. One can pick and choose what to install and what to leave out. I went with just the AV and firewall. It's going to take some serious fiddling around to decide if the suite is worth keeping or not, though.

If this doesn't pan out I think I'm going to try 4wd's solution of MBAM and WFC.

kilele, support for existing java applets are not going to disappear overnight nor is the ability for users to run them if they so choose. Just don't upgrade to the plugin-less release and things will continue to run as they do today. The safest way to run applets (and Flash for that matter) is the same as it always has been. Only visit sites that you trust, be mindful if things don't look right or suspicious, and above all think before you click.

A lot of people, unfortunately, have developed an allergy to critical thinking so these safeguards won't work for them. As for long term, I imagine that applets will fade away and be replaced by HTML5 (or similar) equivalents.

Ever since internet ads started we hear this, and at some point it gets old. It is not the user problem and it's easy why, because other mediums exist where just viewing ads is enough, TV ads payouts are based on how many people view them (ratings) and not those who 'click' or buy.

Unfortunately (?), at least here in the United States, television isn't a medium where viewing ads is enough. Consumers subscribe to cable/satellite/etc. and are still served ads. Even local network affiliates who are usually free over the air are getting a piece of the subscription pie to bolster the revenue they get from ads.

Since I'm 'old' I remember back in the '70s and '80s when a 30 minute block of network programming gave you 27 minutes of program and 3 minutes worth of ads. These days a 30 minute block of network programming gives you 20-21 minutes of program and 9-10 minutes of commercials. I can watch nearly anything I want in my cable TV programming package, but rather than DVR it, I'll just download it from the internet because all the commercials are already cut out.

I think radio has become the worst, though. You'll get 12-15 minutes of programming (if you're lucky) and then 5-8 minutes of ads.

I'm sad to see Agnitum go, but I got my money's worth out of my lifetime license that I bought 8 or so years ago. Anyone have any suggestions regarding a replacement security suite that has a firewall component that's as leak-tight as Agnitum's was?

Hmmm..."We put clean ads back..."

Sounds like a new browser with built-in ad-replacing rather than ad-blocking.

I'm not sure John McAfee is a valid reputable source for anything computing-related anymore. Not only has he been out of the industry for years, but there is that whole 'delusional on an exotic island under the influence of bath salts, accused of at least one murder, and insisted he was the target of a drug cartel in spite of there being no evidence to the contrary' back-story.

The man does not have both oars in the water.

As for the fellow at Symantec, if they believe anti-virus software doesn't work? Why are they still selling it? This one statement has now wondering about the moral compass of this company and its employees. Of course, AV software is not as effective as it once was as threats have evolved and it takes more than just a good AV to be secure these days. This is why Defense in Depth and Defense in Layers has come into being.

Computers and networks are becoming more difficult to defend. No one can dispute this. It's just a lot harder than just slapping the first AV you download onto the PC and calling it a day. Not only does the AV have to be good, but the anti-malware as well. While you're at it, you need a good firewall that will monitor (and optionally block) anything outgoing as well as incoming. Those are just the basics. There's more than can (and should) be done.

Maybe Symantec's just upset that glossy ads no longer guarantee a fat bottom line anymore? For one thing, glossy ads are almost a thing of the past as physical magazine sales dwindle. For another, consumers are getting smarter and not mindlessly buying whatever trialware was bundled with their new PC any longer. Symantec's never been ones for innovation. Their strong suit is more along the lines of buying other companies and sucking the life out of the acquired product lines. They are the productivity version of Electronic Arts. :)

General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 10 Privacy Concerns
« on: September 27, 2015, 10:17 AM »
FWIW, was examining an Android device with Cyanogenmod 12.x on it, and for the one in question, the extensions didn't seem to be enabled as a portion of the mac address appeared to be easily readable off of the IPv6 address of a network interface.

I found an excellent Q&A on SuperUser here that goes into detail about how to turn on privacy extensions for nearly every desktop OS.

If anyone running Windows is curious to know if the privacy extensions are enabled on their PC, one can open a command prompt and type the following:

netsh interface ipv6 show privacy

As for mobile OSes, it's quite a bit more murky. I found an Android app on the Play Store called IPv6Configthat will show if your device is using privacy extensions and offer to enable them, but it requires root. Unfortunately, my ISP does not use IPv6 routing so I was unable to test it.

Living Room / Re: Ad Industry Attacks Firefox
« on: September 26, 2015, 07:56 PM »
Wait, wait, wait...I have to circle back to what the ad industry spokesman said. Am I misunderstanding or is he stating that blocking ads causes us to lose our online privacy?

Upon reading his statement I immediately thought of the speeches the RIAA drones give on every music award show.

General Software Discussion / Re: Klingon Support
« on: September 26, 2015, 07:46 PM »
There are some people who actually prefer to use (or in some cases insist on using) Klingon instead of other "natural" or "non-artificial" languages. It's true that many of them are under some form of psychiatric care, but they're out there nonetheless.

They are easy to find. They're the ones who are living in the sub-division next to the one where all the residents insist on speaking only in Tolkien's Elvish.

The newest Insider Build, build 10547, is now showing 'suggestions' on the Start Menu for some users. Fortunately there's a way to turn them off (so far).


Living Room / Re: The business of web ads - fraudulent at its core
« on: September 24, 2015, 06:10 PM »
I don't like ads. Actually, I hate them. However, I know that sometimes they are a necessary evil to pay the bills and make available content we may not see otherwise. However, I run an ad blocker & will terminate/block ads with extreme prejudice not because of the ads themselves, but what comes with the ads.

The drive-by malware, the tracking, the profiling, the weaseling of evil, malignant files onto my hard drive to help report back to the Mother Ship where I've been surfing, what I've been doing on a computer that cost me a significant amount of money and taking up my bandwidth, slowing down my connection that also costs me a significant amount of money every month.

As for the content, I'm not cheap. I'm not looking for a freebie. Provide me something valuable and I will compensate you. Ironically, the software developers of my ad blocker provided me something very valuable in my eyes & I paid them a not insignificant amount of money in return.

It's also a matter of trust. I may trust your site enough to visit it and let it access my computer via my browser, but where is the server that is hosting and pushing those ads? Is it even located in the same country as your web site? Is it owned by an individual/company that has the same moral compass that you do? There have been too many stories in the news of ad servers dropping 'gifts' on the hard drives of people who viewed their ads. Even the mighty Google's ad servers were victimized by it in the past. If you can't even trust Google's servers to push benign ads, who *can* you trust?

I'll toss my two cents in. Same situation here, in fact SCEP (same stuff but tied to SCCM) allowed a bunch of boxes to pick up Conficker just this week. (Not even anything interesting - Conficker for gosh sakes!!)

Thank you, x16wda. Yes, SCEP basically is the same as Forefront which is the same as MSE (I say this for the benefit of those who do not know). I am not sure where the communication breakdown is, though. If one's anti-malware solution can not prevent infection by something that was released in 2008 it's time to re-evaluate one's choice of protection.

People use MSE because it comes with Windows and it's free. If one must use something free, I suggest checking out BitDefender Free. It's very light on resources, has won many awards, and comes in either at the top or near the top of all independent AV tests.

So we have different experiences.  That's cool.  But I have it installed along with winpatrol and malwarebytes on 9 computers.  That combination along with an aware user has stopped everything that has tried to infect.  With an unaware user, not so much.  So each person to their own experiences and preferences.  You can argue the point, but I won't argue along with you on this.  :-\

Oh, we're not arguing...just a friendly discussion. Honest. :)

However, you are running complementary programs alongside MSE in order to provide accurate security. WinPatrol and MalwareBytes are both awesome products. Have you ever seen MSE stop anything from installing other than a keygen/crack, though?

How many of the people in that test group were running with administrative rights?

That I couldn't say, but are you taking the position that making sure administrative rights are not granted in order for AV to be effective is a valid requirement?

General Software Discussion / Re: Cyberfox / Firefox updated to 41.0x
« on: September 24, 2015, 05:49 PM »
It's back to 40.03 for me.  41 is giving me all kinds of bizarre crashes, does strange stuff when I type a letter with the shift key down(link instead of a capital A it might scroll all the way down the page and jump out of the edit box.)

I'm currently testing Firefox 41.0 (32-bit) and haven't experienced anything like that...yet.

General Software Discussion / Re: Cyberfox / Firefox updated to 41.0x
« on: September 23, 2015, 05:41 PM »
When I need to download Firefox, I prefer to get it from the Mozilla FTP site:

From this directory you can navigate to the stub or offline installer for nearly any release, beta, or nightly build.

General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 10 Announced
« on: September 23, 2015, 05:31 PM »
The poll has nothing to do with the topic - it doesnt make any sense to have it here....

Agreed...and why add a poll *after* the thread is 24 pages long? The poll would do much better in a dedicated Sandboxie thread. Many Sandboxie users won't even click on this topic unless they are interested in Windows 10.

In your experience.  In mine?  I've had it protect against things in downloads, things on pages, and just things in general.  And the icon doesn't change in my experience- it pops up.  The icon is based on whether you're protected.

In my experience and in the experience of many other people I know who have had to work on many computers that are 'protected' with MSE that has the green icon, no pop ups, and even doing a full scan on the PC tells you that your computer is safe, all the while malware is causing popup ads and other evilness to prosper on the computer.

Independent AV tests rarely have MSE score better than 60% in tests. Microsoft's reply? It's baseline protection. It's not meant to be comprehensive or catch everything. They probably don't want security software devs to band against them for a lawsuit in the EU.

MSE is the consumer version of Microsoft Forefront Security, which BTW, is a discontinued product. We're saddled with it at work & at least once every couple weeks the desktop IT team has to spring into action to go cleanse a virus off someone's workstation. I rarely have extremely strong opinions about something preferring to each person to have their own tastes, but MSE is garbage and I'll defend my position to the bitter end.

Found Deals and Discounts / Re: Auslogics Disk Defrag Pro [free]
« on: September 23, 2015, 05:23 PM »
Uhhh...why would they require anything from you about your system if their window is not resizable? It will either resize or it won't. Period. It's not like users with Geforce cards get a resizable window and Radeon users don't.


Full disclosure: I'm a PerfectDisk fanboy....and their window is resizable.

Most payment processors merely want the phone number as a way to be able to contact you if something goes wrong with the payment. There's really nothing nefarious going on, but it is kind of a hold-over from the days before everyone had text messaging and email.

I do know at one point credit card processors would check your phone number with the bank to verify identities, but I don't think they do that so much anymore and it's just a legacy entry on forms.

I've had the same phone number for over a decade & have been buying things on the internet for way longer than that. I've always given my real phone number and never had anything ever come of it. Having said that, though, I do live in a country (United States) that has a national Do Not Call list for telemarketers and live in a state that has an even stricter state-wide Do Not Call list.

I'll get an 'unwanted' call from a telemarketer maybe once every four months or so....just because some people refuse to play by the rules.

Not needed to protect against the stuff regular users get hit with.

The really nasty stuff will never be discovered by anti-malware, but then again, those shouldn't be a worry to you unless you're into international terrorism, or are setting up the next Silk Road :)

I understand what you are saying, but MSE doesn't stop *anything*. I've watched people get infected by a drive-by ad banner while 'protected' by MSE. Dialog boxes popping up willy-nilly on the screen auto-installing this or that through Java, Flash, and Silverlight vulnerabilities. All the while, that happy little green MSE icon stays green till the bitter end.

This particular person got hit with a prompt to update their Adobe Flash & it looked identical to the real dialog box prompt Adobe puts up on the screen. They just  hit "OK" to upgrade before I could say, "Hey, wait a second...".

For a very tech-savvy person, MSE may be fine...or running no AV at all, but 'mom'-level technical literacy needs something a lot more proactive in keeping baddies (any baddies, Microsoft!) out.

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