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OK here's a question:

For Neuron, I really like it and want to use it.  But I want it accessed through my domain, not my github site.  This is where I'm stuck.
I also installed it on my own server, but when i sync the md files back and forth it doesn't update automatically.  I think i have to restart the service every time or something.  It was something I could not figure out.  It's not like Pico where you can just sync the md files whenever you like.

It's also different than Pico in that I don't think I can just put the files on my webhost server, and expect it to work, because i think i have to run the service.  Hence, github is the only way i see to do "auto" publishing.

Can anyone help me with the part of syncing files on my server?  or having it work on my webhost?  Or just say its impossible or why or why not?  I don't quite get it.

edit...
actually, check that.  I tried syncing files, and it is working as I desired!!
http://tbg.mywire.org:8080/z-index.html
Check it out.
I don't quite understand some of the structure as far as how to organize the files into subfolders and such, but check that out!!  I mean, this is really quite nice.

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Pico theming is pretty complicated.  I'm currently using Skull on my site, and really like it.  I tried pure for a while, and it's not bad, but skull was more to my liking.  Ohters I tried, were clutter, dimension, notepaper (example), and story (example).

I was seriously thinking that NotePaper was going to be it- I had it up and running on a different site.  But I found the concepts of the theme constrained how I published, and didn't really like it.  But you're right, because of the use of twig, it's a bit more complicated that it seems, even if a lot more powerful because of it.  Once you get it down, it's pretty easy, though.
Now I'm looking at Grav.  I heard it's like Pico but better in some ways.

Ideally, I want Neuron but with ability to just sync md files like pico.  You can do it, but i think only with github. 
If that guy would release his website code, Andy Matsuchashik, then that would be cool too.
Just trying to get an auto-published markdown site, with a dark theme, single column.  that's all.

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OK quick update from my end....

I wanted to focus on using markdown and these systems to create websites easily (automatically by just syncing files)
first suggestion was Pico CMS...i tried it, it's good...I'm sticking with this one, it seems to check all the boxes.

the other one, Neuron, i also tried this, but it's only "automatic" if you use github.  Otherwise, dropping the files in and out simply, doesn't work like pico.  you have to keep regenerating the site. This is a bummer, as the software is quite simple and nice.  Anyway, pico still is fine.

So now I'll be spending hours trying to figure out the theming system, which is a lot more complex than i thought...


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Regarding icon creation, I've used Greenfish Icon Editor Pro (FOSS) for many many years.

http://greenfishsoftware.org/gfie.php
whoa!!  nice rec!!  never knew of this....

I used axialis since maybe like 2005!!!  Never knew about this!!!!

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Hope to see you visit more regularly- it's not been the same without you!  :Thmbsup:

Probably a lot less discursive and wordy too.  ;) :-[
Hey!  Look who's back!!  Great to see my good friend!!

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Just rearranging deck chairs,
trusting I'm not on a Titanic design.

I was heavily into tags and links with few folders. I came to realise that there was little gain from that when a tag was categorical with boundaries that were rarely crossed. So I've shifted notes around so that some are in sub-folders. Creates the option if making them vaults,  even if I don't see a need right now.

It's also highlighted the dependence of nearly all designs on folders, even where tags can do a better job. If I could cut and dice tag views in the same way I can folders, I would have had no temptation to change. As things stand with many programs, the most flexible visual options come from using both folders and tags together.
agree...rigid and flexible to the exact degree you prefer.

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WHOA
You have to remember that no-one actually thinks it's worth $200m.
You have a group of investors placing a $9m bet that it will actually be worth a lot more. With Roam's owners trying to give away as little as possible in exchange for circa $10 m.

The key to the price was the success of the believers scheme and $15 a month subscription.

What happens next will depend on how successfully Roam deploy the money.
First steps seem to be teams (collaborations) and an API.
AH!  thanks, yes that is revealing.
The thing they are investing in is the feature users want the least, at least users like us.
I feel like the logic is:
Many of us want something where our files are agnostic.  Hence markdown text files.
But for the business to work, it needs to be subscription.
But that probably means agnostic files is not going to be a primary feature.
So then it better have some other great features, which it does.
But is that enough to get people to give subscription money?
Not necessarily, because the whole point was to get an agnostic system.  It's not like we were looking for these new features initially.  Otherwise, if we don't care about the files, we can use any number of systems with cool features.  The whole things counter-productive to me.

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Roam Research valued at $200m in a fund raise where it took $9m outside investment.
WHOA!!!

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Logseq also has a public roadmap and API is on the list and being worked on. I don't know how/why but despite being very new, it seems to be further along in some key areas I care about vs. others (even vs. Obsidian in some respects).
https://github.com/l...gseq/docs/projects/1

Even areas I *don't* personally care about but which might drive adoption (and thus help ensure longer-term success) are getting attention, like localization. Does Obsidian have that yet? Or Roam? (I don't think so) Logseq does! Let's not even get started on Notion's localization odyssey. ;D

Maybe I just like the dev and his user engagement so far:
https://twitter.com/logseq

- Oshyan
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Post New Requests Here / Re: Command-Line Shooter
« on: September 16, 2020, 05:55 PM »
i was just thinking about this last week.
What I ended up going with is mouser's launchbar commander...
I create a button for the commands or group of commands i'd want to launch.  Works great!
It will take some time setting up, but then you can a menu and buttons to do whatever you want.


I think AHK is also good for this sort of thing, but I'm a gui guy.

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Incl. downloading the Linux distro, the NextCloud software, creating the VM and installing NextCloud...that should take about an hour on a Linux computer. Finding out what it does, how to implement the features it has by default, what additions you want and configuring, that took me longer.

Think I spent an hour on getting my spare computer ready for Nextcloud. Usually that process is smoother in a VM than bare metal.
A Windows domain should be able to add a Linux computer into its ranks.
Nice link, man!  Excellent.  Very easy to follow.

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WebDAV is functionality, built into the HTTP protocol, to create a web-drive. This web drive is in essence the same as GoogleDrive or OneDrive or DropBox etc. etc.
All web-server support this. Have used it myself in the most basic form with the Apache web-server software and that worked well. Added a subdomain to my DNS server behind my static IP and could make a folder structure on the webserver, giving different users access to 1 of those folders each. Password protect it etc.

Does not require you to fiddle with opening up ports on a firewall. The amount of available resources on the web-server you kit out with WebDAV will make the experience. Now if you have a web-server running (either locally in your own network and/or on your registered domain on the internet, I would suggest to install NextCloud. This is a really nice and extensive way to add loads and loads of extra functionality to your server running WebDAV. It is open source and free to install/use. It has even clients for Android and iOS, so you can store/retrieve photos and files from and to your phone(s)/tablet(s), just like GoogleDrive, OneDrive, etc.

Extras being added to your WebDAV server are: (video)chat, OnlyOffice (akin Office 365 online), calendars, internet radio, extensive user access control, file and/or folder sharing, drive quotas and so much more. And you provide all of that on a server you control and/or host yourself. All of the Cloud's goodness, but on your own server.

Whether you see it as an advantage or not is up to you, but you must use a Linux-based web-server, if you plan to deploy NextCloud as the back-end on your WebDAV server. For myself and many here at this forum, that won't be any issue at all. It runs just fine in a Virtual Machine or old computer you still had lying around in a corner. Any Linux distribution will do. Personally, I use Ubuntu Server LTS v20.04 on an old computer based on the Core Duo (dual core) Intel processor with a whopping 2 GByte of RAM. Which is great for a family of 4 (active) persons or less. If you have something with a bit more resources available, it won't be a problem to support 8 persons with NextCloud.
ive been having a devil of a time setting up nextcloud to work in a windows domain.  I even purchased a prebuilt hyperv machine to make it easier...still having a hard time.  ill get it soon.   spent several hours so far.

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another strange application from back in the day called....liquid story builder
Nothing comes close to the strangeness of Liquid Story Binder. It worked, if you could learn the techniques, but it was always in the way of any creative flow. It was strangely antiquated even when it first launched.

Scrivener also has a steep learning curve, but is a good program. Particularly good for some things, especially if you write in small chunks, but mostly OK and functional. But the Windows version always struggles to keep up. After an extraordinarily long gestation the developer promised the final version would be out around this time last year. Still hasn't made it. But works reasonably well, doesn't lose data and can be used free until it's finished. I've used it from time to time but it has never aided creativity,  just getting the job done.
And not really designed around screenwriting.

I like Scapple,  but I like using a pen and Android tablet more.

i mean if we are talking going primitive....eventually i can end up scirbbling diagrams and saving the images, and those images are my zettel.

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I'm really interested in specific benefits of direct text editing, but so far I am hearing *that* it is useful and important to you, but not much about *why*. That's OK, it is enough that it *is* important to you, clearly.

As far as general advice about how to choose a tool(set) in the current landscape, I maintain my position that "database vs. text" is a false dichotomy. It is definitely more useful IMO to state specific roots of concern that *may* arise from those two paradigms, such as "data ownership" (not a given with a DB, e.g. if it's using an open DB format and/or all content is markdown and it has a robust exporter). Which is part of why I want to know these specific advantages and use cases for external tools operating on text files.

It may simply come down simply to it "feels right". Or is rooted in a more abstract value or moral stance such as unwillingness (perhaps reasonable) to trust a company with your data under any circumstances. That kind of foundational limit will pretty severely restrict your choices, but that's OK if you understand and accept the trade-offs, if that specific value is important enough to you.

In the end whatever helps you be productive is great. It may not help others choose tools as a heuristic for evaluation and decision, but it's certainly a valid stance.

@superboyac, have you played with mind mapping tools? I would imagine so, but don't they work exactly like "Scapple"? Only some are way more mature than it sounds like it is currently... I would go crazy without Search. ;D

- Oshyan
I've probably tried ALL the mind mapping tools in the last 20 years LOLL.  jk....

But I've tried so many.  I don't like mind mapping tools because they force you to use their methods...it's not as freeform as just drawing a bubble and connecting it to another.  A loooooong time ago, when I was doing this here, mouser suggested Edge Diagrammer, a simple outlining tool (like visio but simpler).  I used that for a while.  But once I saw Scapple, it was much more perfect.

dormouse...I also recently tried Scrivener...didn't see it being terribly useful.  Eventually, I was like I'll just use Final Draft directly for screenwriting.  But Scapple still is very unique and perfect.  Scrivener reminds me of another strange application from back in the day called....liquid story builder.  Same thing, didn't stick.

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gingko
nice....you must be a writer!

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This program called Scapple.  It's just a brainstorming tool.  You write in bubbles and connect them, that's it.  But I have been using it similar to how a zettel works, which is one scapple file per thought.
I periodically return to Scapple. It's one of those programs I think ought to suit me (because it's visual) but never quite does in practice. It's very good if it's working for you though. Quite a lot of people are major fans.
Here's an example .... I think this is better than at least cards on paper. Printing this out would be even better.

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quick update:

I've been working through all this notetaking business with markdown the past year, trying it all out, seeing what sticks, etc...this entire thread.

None of these methods are sticking for me.  But it has rekindled my writing projects, and I've been writing a lot.

And you know what is sticking??  This program called Scapple.  It's just a brainstorming tool.  You write in bubbles and connect them, that's it.  But I have been using it similar to how a zettel works, which is one scapple file per thought.  A few bubbles connected, boom done.  It is great, and it is sticking with me.

Unfortunately, it doesn't have any extra features.  NOthing to search, nothing linked, no tags, etc.  But you can't do that with a real zettel anyway.

SO why do I like it?  It's very visual.  With the bubbles and colors, it is very fast and easy to understand an idea, relative to reading linear text.  VERY fast.
scapple_flow.jpg

ANyway, probably not super helpful.  But I am loving it.

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There's also Amplenote

Imports from Evernote, Roam and Markdown. Exports Markdown.
Mostly advertising itself as a secure, encrypted alternative to Roam.
PWA app like Octo; I'm not massively keen on that myself.
Seems to be aimed at tasks and productivity notes, rather than notes in general.
Free trial but no free tier.
The blog is quite interesting.
geezus h christ almighty

will it ever end


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Living Room / Re: Wanted a software collection software
« on: September 03, 2020, 01:07 PM »
there was actually a tool for this like 15 years ago, and I had it.  I forgot what it was called.  But it used a funky backend of access or something like that.  It was cool.

I just remembered....SoftCat!

I had this one but it is discontinued.  LOL, can't say it was super helpful but it was cool.
Another way to do this is with those uninstallers like Revo Uninstaller.  They list your software, so what else do you need?  Check them out.

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this looks so hardcore lol

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whoa....this is handy.

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my god, the number of software out there....

i mean, they are all so cool though.
neuron is a future-proof command-line app for managing your plain-text Zettelkasten notes:
https://neuron.zettel.page/
https://github.com/ihsanturk/neuron.vim
this is interesting....it looks like a Pico type thing where it can make a website from your notes, and the author's site is quite nice!!

https://www.srid.ca/

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The 660 SHOULD be able to drive all 4 I believe, but I've never tried it.
The real annoyance with drying to drive all 4 from 1 display is that each card has a mixture of ports (dvi, hdmi, displayport), and I've had issues with monitors waking up weirdly when connected to some ports.. The current arrangement seems to work.
i just couldn't get 4 to work.  I also felt it was capable.  But it would require one to get disable to use the other, etc so even if there were 4 plugged in only 3 could be used.  But really, yes, not enough plugs essentially....one way or the other.

your setup kicks ass...i'm getting lots of ideas.

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I have 2 nvidia display adapters, a GTX 1070 and a GTX 660.

The 660 is actually driving three of my displays, and the 1070 one.
ah that makes sense.
two nights ago, i was trying to get the 4th to work, and i was like I think i need a second card.  no amount of converters/adapters work after a while.

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