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Just a little update on going nuclear and the aftermath.

I should add for the benefit of others that uninstalling Java did not remove the persistent virus.

1. You kind of obliterate everything and it's great to start afresh again, sort of. I looked through what I had previously installed and really, some of those I don't really use so I did some spring cleaning as well. The process is painfully slow, partly because I'm also taking my time. But the laptop seems to runs faster.

2. I decided to just as a matter of practice, exercise much greater caution when installing programs. Whenever possible, I upload each exe (limitation of 64mb) to www.virustotal.com or at least scan the url of the website before I download.

Better an ounce a caution than to have to go Nuclear again.

I wish there was a way of automating the process a bit more, like rightclick a url and send the url to be scanned at www.virustotal.com. Or a way for me to right click a file and send the exe to be scanned at www.virustotal.com

3. Started wondering about a disk imaging solution. Used to use Ghost on XP.

Any suggestion of a reliable free imaging solution that works well with Windows 8 ?

4. Right now, for anti-virus, I use Windows Defender, Malwarebytes and also Web Of Trust (WOT - addin for Firefox).

Just wondering if I should add anymore armor besides being much more cautious about where I surf and what I click on. Any suggestions, apart from disconnecting myself from the internet ?

5. I also have noscript enabled on Firefox.


Thanks for any suggestions.

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If it were me I would just go nuclear - even if you think you have cleared things you can never be 100% certain you got everything.

Thank you Carol for your thoughts. I appreciate your validation of what has been going through my head. I'm hoping against hope.

This is exactly what I'm feeling, seeing how hard it is to detect.

Even if it appears that it has been removed, I can never be 100% certain.

So I'll just have to bite the bullet, go nuclear and learn to be far more careful.

This is the first time in many years that I have been tripped up by a virus.

I guess, the biggest danger is really complacency had set in for me.

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Completed scan by Sophos Virus Removal Tool.

I was not surprised that it detected nothing of consequence relating to the Trojan Dropper:MSIL/Livate.A.

I may try a couple of others of the suggested methods before going Nuclear.

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Does anyone know how I may remove Trojan Dropper:MSIL/Livate.A ?

I would call for help to http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/

Someone already asked your same question:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/506076/very-annoying-trojandropper-need-help/
(are you Zatiac?  :) )

And this is the solution of Zatiac (of course I don't know if that applies for you too):
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/506084/trojan-dropper-need-fast-help-please/


Thanks for the heads up about the solution.

From Zatiac
"Thanks for the response but I got it solved, I reset internet explorer and uninstalled java....that got all traces of the dropper off my laptop :D  I suspect the dropper is how the fbi moneypacks ransom got on my laptop as well. "


I'm right now scanning with Sophos Virus Removal Tool overnight to see if it detects anything.

Then I may Zatiac's "solution" and test out to see if the solution "works".

I may still go for the "Nuclear method".

I rang up Asus and they took me through the process of Rebooting and Reinstalling the Windows 8 OS from the hidden partition to reset everything to as per factory.

They told me I cannot Recreate the Recovery disk from another identical Laptop as it would have a different Windows 8 key.

They advised that a factory type Reset by Reinstalling and formatting is the surest method to ensure that the virus is removed, although it takes several hours because essentially, it reformats and recreates the partitions.

Naturally this is the sure fire though time consuming way.

But it's also an excuse for me to refresh everything, make the laptop run a bit faster (hopefully) and probably junk a lot of useless stuff on my laptop.

I'm of course a little bit concerned if some of the software that requires activation will reactivate properly. But they probably should since I'm not changing any hardware.

But in the process, I thought I may as well test out a couple of these suggested Virus Removal Tools in this thread first. I wouldn't be surprised if they found nothing. Sigh!

While I'm on this subject, I might as well mention that in future, before I access some new sites or install some programs, I'll make better use of www.virustotal.com, whether to check out a URL or an exe first, besides using Malwarebytes and Hitman Pro

A ounce of prevention is worth a megaton of going Nuclear to clean up a laptop.

This process is going to proceed rather slowly, but if I come across any further useful lessons, I'll certainly post on this thread.

Thanks to all who have posted their thoughts.

Donationcoders are such a group of helpful people.

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Thats a nasty one.

Google "Kapersky Rescue Disk". Download and burn it to a CD (or USB key)? Then boot and allow it to grab the most recent updates? Then disinfect from that.

Haven't run into anything this hasn't been able to squash.

AVG and Avira also have similar bootable scanners if it doesn't.

Luck! :Thmbsup:

I will probably give this a shot before going "Nuclear" with the Windows  Reinstall.

Thanks

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